SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Metal Sonic]

I feel great about ooba actually, he and metal sonic probably move back up to my top tier.

i think vezok is scummy could you move a vote there please

[Imperium]

no

[Solar Wind]

I feel fantastic about Ooba as well. Do you still feel great about Rach?

[Imperium]

mostly to the ooba thing, although i don't really think vezok is scummy either
you could unite with me and tammy obviously town and vote beastcharizard, though!

[Metal Sonic]

no

why no

[Imperium]

I feel fantastic about Ooba as well. Do you still feel great about Rach?

i don't feel bad about rach, although i'd like to see her do something again

[Metal Sonic]

Vezok wagon best wagon.

Now seriously. Metal sonic is town. House and TSO are town also.
I still have no idea what's up with beast.

Ceph, don't tell me you're scum with Ms.

Ceph: thank me later.

vote ms

It's good that you're back. Time to die.

lol

[Solar Wind]

What concerns about Beast specifically?

[Imperium]

I had a town read on the beginning on ms because his entry was townish. After that it dwindled and I expressed that in my neighbourhood. It slowly dwindled to a major scum read.

considering that was most people's approach to you this game, not surprising to me

[Solar Wind]

My only concern with Vezok is the switch in his AP stance.

[Imperium]

woo other head is doing someting. I'm gonna go troll people on site chat and skype!

[Metal Sonic]

I had a town read on the beginning on ms because his entry was townish. After that it dwindled and I expressed that in my neighbourhood. It slowly dwindled to a major scum read.

considering that was most people's approach to you this game, not surprising to me

why would it dwindle when i was away in another PT and silenced?

it is an easy and lazy way scum motivation trajectory.






also for some reason you missed the part about ceph "dont be scum with ms" "lol i protected you please thank me"

[ooba]

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

In post 3598, Metal Sonic wrote:
Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap: I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

Please respond to this part.

[Imperium]

we did not miss that.

[Metal Sonic]

Piping into say I'm fine with everyone posting - nothing pinged my scumdar.

I really think lynching a lurker\low-poster would yield scum D1. Brantz is my pick. And not interested in lynching TD, Vezo or Mask in that list.

I like that.

Vote: Brantz

Tired so going to bed now, but biggest wagon + less posts than me=

Vote: AceofSpades

Vote: RachMarie

Counterwagon ho!!

Can someone link/explain the whole leaving thread thing yesterday?

Vote: Metal Sonic

can we just go on a tangent and say that these people are probably not scum

[Imperium]

No. Antitown is posting spam and cluttering the thread. I don't have anything important to say when the whole thread is bullshit.

^town

On phone. Can't really say much now.

I like how people vote for me because I posted two things. Brantz is the most awful vote. He asks something then gives the reasom he considers correct is in the same post. That seems faked scumhunting and questioning.

^town

I'm not lynching ceph day 1 when we have like 4 heavy lurkers.

Fuck your egos and lynch scum not inflate your self worth.

^town

I'm not lynching ceph day 1 when we have like 4 heavy lurkers.

Fuck your egos and lynch scum not inflate your self worth.

Since when did lynching lurkers equal lynching scum?

I think you're dumb on purpose.

Lynching lurkers is better than lynching town who's actually doing something.

^town

Cephrir is town as fuck. What os wrong with you sw?

If you ever want to explain why, I'll be listening.

Well yes. I saved cephrir last night. And there are no kills today.

^town, especially considering the whole "not lynching ceph, he's town as fuck" + "based on this quote, ceph has a strong role" posting

[Metal Sonic]

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

In post 3598, Metal Sonic wrote:
Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap: I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

Please respond to this part.

you can believe whatever you want, lol

your slippery slope holds 0 logic flow and is equivalent to "the sun is red because the sky is blue"

[Imperium]

What concerns about Beast specifically?

i have concerns with the way he's used his role to buy him "just one more day" in a way extraordinarily similar to sabotage mafia
i have concerns with the pushes he's made this game
i have concerns with lack of townposting: usually there's something that beast has done at this point that makes me nod my head and go "yeah, town-beast".

[Metal Sonic]

i dont have vezok scum meta oh well

[Solar Wind]

Nacho, those are fantastic reasons to read Vezok as town. The following series of posts took a hit on my Vezok townread and made me less certain in town-Vezok than I was before. Because they don't make any sense:

Incredibly sorry I didn't post.

I was closely reading the thread and wanted to post yesterday, but had some stuff to do.

AP is town. I'm glad he came back.
I don't get the matins hate.
Solar wind: What's your readlist?

Somewhat busy at the moment so this will be quick.

No, AP's catch up wasn't town. It was designed to manipulate specific people into reading him as town. Nothing that he posted in his catchup is something that he would be unable to fake as scum. Anyone townreading AP should explain why.

Both Ffery and I are reading Imperium as town and have already explained it. Don't get why people are asking again and again. Just read our posts.

Ffery posted her reads in our hydra PT. I expect we'll probably post a list once I re-read the game and refine a few reads I suppose. She's free to post hers obviously but I'm not ready yet.

So we shouldn't read AP as town because all he did may be faked? Then how can we read AP?

Cephrir is not scum. He's being pushed by scum as cw to ace.

Deadline is in 4 days.

More votes on ace please. Classic scum caving under pressure.

Votecount 21: DAWN OF THE FINAL DAY OF THE FIRST DAY

Theaceofspades (5): AngryPidgeon, vezokpiraka, xombie, Rachmarie, ZZZX
AngryPidgeon (3): theaceofspades, Magua, Imperium, Solar Wind
beastcharizard (3): Skybird, Cephrir, The Mask
RachMarie (3): Ooba, PeregrineV, Farside22
TiphaineDeath (2): Mastin2, TSO
Cephrir (2): TiphaineDeath, FourTrouble
FourTrouble (2): Aeronaut
Skybird (0): beastcharizard

Not voting: Heartless, Ankamius


Reminder that it's 12 to lynch and not 13.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-02-06 22:30:00)

Tick Tock!

unvote
vote ap

Holy shit 16 pages in a few hours. Let's lynch someone. Liking magua's entry. Not really liking heartless.

What you see here is Vezok having a townread on AP, a scumread on Ace, both of which he's reasonably passionate about. He then switches from a bigger wagon on Ace to a smaller one on AP towards deadline.

[Metal Sonic]

Apparently some of the gods are not much for conversation...

PeregrineV, [KUMBHAKARNA, THE SLEEPING GIANT],

Mass Blocker Princess

, mafia-aligned, killed day 1!

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Votecount 31: Shot through the flab!

Metal Sonic (6): Heartless, The Mask, Cephrir, Skybird, TSO, TiphaineDeath
TheAceofspades (3): Xombie, Ooba, vezokpiraka
RachMarie (2): Bitmap, Farside22
Mastin2 (1): FourTrouble
Ankamius (1): Magua
Skybird (1): Mastin2
BeastCharizard (1): Imperium
Magua (1): beastcharizard

Not Voting: Rachmarie, Ankamius, ZZZX, TheWayItEnds, Metal Sonic, Solar Wind, theaceofspades

23 alive means 12 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2015-03-02 00:00:00)

Dramonic, is it intentional for the votecount to not be reset after a daykill, or is it mod error?

[Metal Sonic]

Magua (1): beastcharizard

btw people notice that beast gains a 0.5 vote.

so far 2 anti-town has flipped

2 x 0.5 = 1

hmm

[Metal Sonic]

Vote: RachMarie

Counterwagon ho!!

yeah, farside now that you bring this up, this

... does the opposite of implicate rachmarie

i don't know what the word i'm looking for is (an antonym of "implicate") since i'm kind of stupid, but you get the point.

i have "exonerate"

[Metal Sonic]

This is true with the two flips and my own role, but all role power names in this game correspond to ability names in the MOBA, Smite.

Compare Fenrir's flip with MOBA equivalent and Kumbhakarna's role with his game character.

Sine Arcshot: peregrineV

This + kill going through confirms that MS is a Racist.

I'm pretty sure this happened because I was right about the evil character guess here and MS thought it would be better if he masked his day kill in the form of a more heroic\good character.

He either didn't realise the [role=ability names] thing or forgot when he posted in thread.

@Bitmap:

I wouldn't take MS into your neighbourhood. Mafia can waste their NK on him if they please.

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I'll answer the heartless case here since it's related and the strongest point. Other points in a separate post.

a) You're right in that I correctly read MS as racist. I spotted something weird with his play - he barely cared that much on who he was pushing (nothing like the confidence\arrogance you saw in Capcom). On the other hand, he was far too useless to be Mafia. That, plus clues like calling his neighbourhood all town reaffirmed that. However, that doesn't require me to be Mafia. I have a history of making deductions like this as town.

b) Plus your case does not consider motives.

If I was Mafia, I would want MS removed from the game.

A third party killer is a liability to Mafia. [As evidenced by Pere dying].

I would have done the exact reverse as scum. Pushed his lynch through stating he's Mafia.

I would not have brought up the racist possibility.

oh ya btw

consider that AP is infinite bulletproof (in fact, he gets a doublekill if his BP is hit). lets imagine ooba is scum

ooba-scum cant NK me. the only way he can get rid of me is to lynch me (with his partners). seems like an easy job that I was considered "scummy" before i conftowned myself like a boss. now his trajectory is shit and he sounds like a flailing buffoon.

i could not ever in my life imagine ooba as a flailing buffoon with such crazy ideas as town. he never expected me to daykill scum correctly so that is an unexpected situation he had to handle. "doesn't look like scum, "strange" scum vibes", lol


meanwhile, now we imagine ooba is town

town wants to lynch scum. okay so SKs are anti-town, that i concede (hello mastin). the reasons for ooba saying "he does not look like scum. he must be SK" is underdeveloped, unsubstantiated, and very imaginary. considering that he subscribes to the belief that "SKs should play like town"



i'm not even going to begin on how anybody can conceive of the idea that there are two SKs in the game

[Metal Sonic]

ooba, was AP in your neighborhood?

Nope. If my calculations are correct, AP is in a three person neighbourhood. One person is 'The Mask' and one of {5. Theaceofspade, 10. ZZZX, 19. Ankamius}.

Re-read the game - House(Magua) is surely town. I also feel much better about FourTrouble and farside.

I'd be down with a MS lynch.

Vote: MS

Also, TD's bramble is probably his own use.

look at the above^

Why on earth did you consider the mod's sample role pm a remote possibility over docs, JKs and RBs?

I don't think that ultimate is a sample one. Probably under the control of another Egyptian is what I figure.

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Hmm. Getting a very weird not-scum but scum feeling from MS.
- The insistence that Chinese neighbourhood is all-town
- Plus talking about SK in singular
makes me think he might be a chinese-pantheon racist. (http://smite.gamepedia.com/Zhong_Kui)?

I'm expecting one more racist + 4-5 scum team

@MS: Claim Racist and we'll let you live.

crazy attempt at justification LATER^


i think that he was planning to set me up for a lynch, but when i was so obv town he had to change angles.











or, ooba could be town and he's yelling about crazy stuff