Mini 1642: The Burning (GAME OVER FLAMES HAVE ENGULFED TOWN)

[Boonskiies]

on the off chance that Elbirn flips town, then Pie started a counterwagon on his scum buddy who he knew wouldn't get lynched to show some distancing between the two. But that's irrelevant after the Elbirn flip anyways.

@Cheetory - It makes sense. I already felt there was a vig in this game, and not a SK. I just thought you were the vig up until today when I began to scum read you. Seeing as there are 3 PR's on town, I'm assuming that the remaining scum have at least one other PR also, so unless you are a Mafia tracker, I feel your tracker claim mixed in with FF are enough to make you town. And mafia traitor RB'er is pretty strong and have easy fake claims, so I'd imagine that the scum team would have a semi decent PR left. Possibly like Mafia Doctor or something. I have no clue on setup specs and balancing actually...I don't know what else would make sense on this scum team. The main reason I'm taking your claim at face value is because you were waiting for Acryon to claim, and actually pretty much forcing him to before you gave up your tracker. I don't see a reason for you taking that kind of route as scum.

@Eektor - did Pie do that on day 2, also? I'll check it out.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is most likely where I leave you guys.

I have pages of analysis that you'll probably end up ignoring so I'll leave it out, but I'm going to leave you with some last thoughts.

Scum ] Elbirn --- Pie - Eek = Monkey = Acryon - Cheeto -- Boonskies ----- Annie [ Town

[RadiantCowbells]

If Scum!Cheeto foresaw the lynch on Elbirn, he may have made up the whole kit and caboodle regarding being informed to solidify his towncred.

This isn't to say he's scum necessarily, but just watch for it.

[RadiantCowbells]

And: we could easily ahve a protective and this could be a 4 scum game.

[eektor]

on the off chance that Elbirn flips town, then Pie started a counterwagon on his scum buddy who he knew wouldn't get lynched to show some distancing between the two. But that's irrelevant after the Elbirn flip anyways.

@Cheetory - It makes sense. I already felt there was a vig in this game, and not a SK. I just thought you were the vig up until today when I began to scum read you. Seeing as there are 3 PR's on town, I'm assuming that the remaining scum have at least one other PR also, so unless you are a Mafia tracker, I feel your tracker claim mixed in with FF are enough to make you town. And mafia traitor RB'er is pretty strong and have easy fake claims, so I'd imagine that the scum team would have a semi decent PR left. Possibly like Mafia Doctor or something. I have no clue on setup specs and balancing actually...I don't know what else would make sense on this scum team. The main reason I'm taking your claim at face value is because you were waiting for Acryon to claim, and actually pretty much forcing him to before you gave up your tracker. I don't see a reason for you taking that kind of route as scum.

@Eektor - did Pie do that on day 2, also? I'll check it out.

No she didn't start a counterwagon, but as soon as she caught up she pushed Toon hard and then when Elbirn's wagon fell, pseudo voted for acryon.

[eektor]

This is most likely where I leave you guys.

I have pages of analysis that you'll probably end up ignoring so I'll leave it out, but I'm going to leave you with some last thoughts.

Scum ] Elbirn --- Pie - Eek = Monkey = Acryon - Cheeto -- Boonskies ----- Annie [ Town

Are you saying Elbirn is scum and then there is a tie between me and pie as his scum buddy? Is Monkey a null tell? and is Annie you?

[RadiantCowbells]

Just, why would of all people the tracker be informed?

That's bizarre and makes me somewhat skeptical.

[Boonskiies]

i think her reads are saying eek/monkey/acryon are tied. and I've never dealt with informed before, so i don't know.

[eektor]

Oh, I can see how it can be read that way. Which role would have been more likely to be informed? Why not the tracker?

[pieguyn]

Actually come to think of it, I think Pie might be scum with Elbirn. If you look at Pie's ISO, she's been completely trying to move votes off of Elbirn while staying under the radar about it. When I had initially pushed Elbirn, Pie was the one trying to say it's "town vs town". And she completely tried derailing any of my pushes towards Elbirn. She's still staying away from the Elbirn wagon. She's trying to start a counter wagon off of her scum buddy.

After Elbirn flips, you're next Pie. GG.

VOTE: Elbirn

. . .

if you had a problem with my town read on Elbirn, you could have, you know, asked about it? what part of my reasoning for town reading Elbirn have you disagreed with and why?

also, i'd be somewhat interested in mass claiming today

it's currently 6-2; since we have another mislynch before MYLO, massclaim today ensures any claim/CC can be worked out before then.

role fishing.

are you fucking kidding me?

I suggested massclaim because in most cases, _massclaim at the round before xYLO is the theoretically correct play_. plus, I literally explained _why_ it was the theoretically correct play in the exact post you quoted. how is that role fishing?

I agree with this and the same thing happened on day 2.

same question to you. and do not dodge this like you did the last time.

[Elbirn]

On phone at work and assume thread will be locked before I can post. I was vanilla town you bunch a smacked asses. see ya post game. Monkey is scum, eektor or boon is the partner.

[eektor]

On phone at work and assume thread will be locked before I can post. I was vanilla town you bunch a smacked asses. see ya post game. Monkey is scum, eektor or boon is the partner.

You haven't been lynched yet.

[Elbirn]

...didn't boon just quickhammer me?

[eektor]

@pie I don't think I'm a fan of mass claim, but if the definition of role fishing is trying to find the town power roles, a mass claim will definitely find them. I would think in this game scum would be looking for a doctor or some kind of protective role to kill them so they can take out the confirmed town. If acryon is the vig, which I'm inclined to believe since the kills did match his reads, who knows the scum might have taken a shot at the IC and a doctor protected him. Either way I wouldn't base a scum read on that as I have seen town propose mass claims.

[eektor]

...didn't boon just quickhammer me?

You have 4 votes, 5 is needed for the lynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

On phone at work and assume thread will be locked before I can post. I was vanilla town you bunch a smacked asses. see ya post game. Monkey is scum, eektor or boon is the partner.

this is le fake.

[Elbirn]

You're fake, boon said he hammered me you meanie

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm roger fedoraer and i'm here to say
the reddit armie is here to stay
i wrote a rap song about this vid
dont believe me i hope you never have kids
this video is le fake and gay
how can I tell i simply press play
the man is using prerecorded track
if i were there i would kick him right in the sack
what what what what
reddit armie
in the house

[RadiantCowbells]

What happened to you being angry with me? Now you just seem sort of resigned.

[pieguyn]

@eektor:

sorry for confusion, I wanted to know about this:

if you had a problem with my town read on Elbirn, you could have, you know, asked about it? what part of my reasoning for town reading Elbirn have you disagreed with and why?

I'm asking this bc I don't like the way you seem to be weakly following Boon on why I'm scum.

[pieguyn]

also I want to do some rereading before anyone hammers

[Boonskiies]

It was a hammer. Monkey voted Elbirn before me.

[Cheetory6]

Monkey u voted and revoked. Don't think it was a hammer.

[Boonskiies]

@Pie - I don't need to ask about it. You're scum.

[Boonskiies]

Oh, yeah I missed that.

Vote: Elbirn