NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)

[Randomnamechange]

Jesus christ
UNVOTE:
VOTE: stranger coug

[The Dream Weaver]

VoteCount 4.10

d3x (3):

dragonspawn, I Am Innocent, Garmr

dragonspawn (0):

Dripping Goofball (0):

Flubbernugget(0):

Garmr (0):

I Am Innocent (0):

Kthxbye (0):

NakedJogger (0):

Nero Cain (3):

StrangerCoug, Flubbernugget, NakedJogger

Peacebringer (0):

randomidget (2):

Dripping Goofball, d3x

StrangerCoug (5):

Nero Cain, Kthxbye, TheDudeAbides, Peacebringer, randomidget

TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting

- No one.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2015-02-19 18:00:00).

Dex is V/LA until 2/25.

[Kthxbye]

So RM is paying enough attention to flip his vote to whatever wagon gains momentum but unwilling to actually produce content.

No. I will not let this stand. RM or bust.

VOTE: RM

I can not see how any of you and I mean ANY OF YOU can think RM is anything but fucking scum and this is starting to piss me the fuck off that he's not being lynched for it. Not moving my vote the rest of the day. Whether or not RM is bussing SC or not, I'm not moving my vote.

[dragonspawn]

We are quickly going nowhere.

[Kthxbye]

I don't even care after RMs continued play. 2375 is the straw that is the scum claim that broke the camel's back

[Nero Cain]

but atleast RM is participating. Meanwhile scum Flubber is doing jack all.

[Kthxbye]

but atleast RM is participating. Meanwhile scum Flubber is doing jack all.

This is not exactly true but I agree with the sentiment behind it in regards to Flubber.

For those of you too lazy to do it and/or are RM's scum buddies:

Spoiler: RM's ISO from just today

VOTE: nero
Sorry abr. Whether or not Nero is scum he is fucking ip this game and needs to go.

I miscounted and the lack of warning meant I thought it was L-2. I was expecting someone to post warning.

WHAT ABOUT RM YOU FUCKS?! How could town hammer like that?

I do it all the time

I can confirm this. I remember in our first game together one player did this twice then was NK'ed by scum.
Do you really think I would continue to play in a way that is gettong me scumread if I was scum? The main reason I'm being scumread is for my playstyle.
Ironically someone recently said that I had one of the best playstyle on mafiascum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: naked jogger
100% gut, I am having a hard time trying to put a csse togrther but I think they are scum.

Sry thought I posted more recently. D3x is quite clearly SC's buddy. Hw knows if he votes Nero he will look terrible so he votes the already declared compromise lynch, whilst leaving himself open to a bus if the SC wagon happens.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: strangercoug
I think d3x is scummier, but this will be an easier lynch.

You need to say a bit more than this is scummy, kthx. That's just lazy.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: d3x
D3x scum SC prob scum

Nero, we can lynch SC when d3x flips scum. D3x wagon will be easier.

Nero, you say you want us to believe you are town. Easiest way is for d3x to flip scum.

And if he doesn't? We'll be in the same spot we are in today. Like SC, Flubber and kthx are all scum and that already makes 4. A 5th IS possible but possible is the keyword for me. I'm going to feel pretty bad if he flips scum, I mean I'd lynch him over 100% town me but I mean....I just really want a dead SC and that'll happen regardless of dx's flip.

SC isnt happening today Nero.

Jesus christ
UNVOTE:
VOTE: stranger coug

RM goes from, 'Nero may or may not be scum but he needs to go' to basically saying, 'I'll lynch whoever Nero wants to lynch today'

Come on people. It's not rocket science. There is not a single post in his ISO that even hints at any sort of town motivation. Unless someone can show me town motivation from him, I expect his lynch today because the only explanation for having zero town motivation in posting is because there is none which means it's scum posting. Even VI's have SOME hint of town motivation in some of their posts.

[StrangerCoug]

If Nero Cain is unviable then I'll go ahead with randomidget.

[Randomnamechange]

Kthx, there were 5 players on Nero. Now there are two. Multiple people have changed reads on him. Kthx d3x and SC scum.

[Nero Cain]

Why don't you think Flubber is scum?

[Kthxbye]

Kthx, there were 5 players on Nero. Now there are two. Multiple people have changed reads on him. Kthx d3x and SC scum.

"if you think I'm scum for my shit scum play, you're scum"

Get the fuck outa here.

[Garmr]

Not once did you try to question her for it after why?

and expect her to say something different? She thought ABR was scum, she gambited, I picked up on it. Why do YOU think scum her would do it? But she's way down my totem pole. Mafia is a marathon, not a sprint. If we need to get DGB later then we can but for right now she's off the table.

I am also 100x with TDA here. DX could be scum but but I don't think he's the best lynch for the day.

SC and Flubber (nore Flubber than SC) have done practically nothing all game and are hard as fuck to lynch. Its ika all over again.

That's still a bad reason to town read dbg. Well if your town to push suspicion you the next day and get you lynched and if your scum to out a power role Plenty of reasons for scum less reasons for town.

[Kthxbye]

Spoiler: Every single fucking reference from RM about SC

Nero, Kthx, Dragon, know what's funny, you don't even look at why SC or I am voting PeaceBringer.

Do you know he has 4 votes D1, 3 of which are for the two dead townies?

He defended Nero by attacking me for asking for general reads on all the players. Most likely protecting a scummate, and the scum in the Neighborhood.

Then he posts today, ONE POST AFTER GETTING A VOTE, and doesn't vote himself. Lurking, and still hasn't voted (aka taking stances).

But you three come after me because I'm posting FROM WORK (look at the time and where I live), ON MY CELL, WHICH I HATE DOING, a correction to the mod and getting my vote out there (yeah, I update my vote analysis on my work computer since I have excel on that).

So go screw yourselves.

95% likelihood of at least one scum in {Nero, Peacebringer}

The fact that the majority of the players continuing ignoring/defending these players makes me only feel better about these 2 scumreads I have.

I think you are onto something here, especially qith nero's defence since.
Nero is joining my scumreads and pssibly peacebringer.

Sry thought I posted more recently. D3x is quite clearly SC's buddy. Hw knows if he votes Nero he will look terrible so he votes the already declared compromise lynch, whilst leaving himself open to a bus if the SC wagon happens.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: strangercoug
I think d3x is scummier, but this will be an easier lynch.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: d3x
D3x scum SC prob scum

Nero, we can lynch SC when d3x flips scum. D3x wagon will be easier.

Nero, you say you want us to believe you are town. Easiest way is for d3x to flip scum.

And if he doesn't? We'll be in the same spot we are in today. Like SC, Flubber and kthx are all scum and that already makes 4. A 5th IS possible but possible is the keyword for me. I'm going to feel pretty bad if he flips scum, I mean I'd lynch him over 100% town me but I mean....I just really want a dead SC and that'll happen regardless of dx's flip.

SC isnt happening today Nero.

Kthx, there were 5 players on Nero. Now there are two. Multiple people have changed reads on him. Kthx d3x and SC scum.

Find me where his SC scum read with reasoning is located. It's like Where's Waldo without the fucking Waldo.

Get the fuck outa here.

[Kthxbye]

Garmr, give it up. I asked this question ages ago and got shit for a response to it.

[d3x]

I think his v/la right after we start pushing him is more suspicious.

I very much resent this.

I'll try to be around for deadline, in case my Vote is needed.

[Nero Cain]

Not once did you try to question her for it after why?

and expect her to say something different? She thought ABR was scum, she gambited, I picked up on it. Why do YOU think scum her would do it? But she's way down my totem pole. Mafia is a marathon, not a sprint. If we need to get DGB later then we can but for right now she's off the table.

I am also 100x with TDA here. DX could be scum but but I don't think he's the best lynch for the day.

SC and Flubber (nore Flubber than SC) have done practically nothing all game and are hard as fuck to lynch. Its ika all over again.

That's still a bad reason to town read dbg. Well if your town to push suspicion you the next day and get you lynched and if your scum to out a power role Plenty of reasons for scum less reasons for town.

I still have yet to reason why town me should have ignored DGB's soft guilty on ABR ant not tried to push that wagon and hopefully fool scum into thinking that I was the pr and not her. I think POE is fairly good and any decent town uses it instead of just flailing about and wanting to lynch everyone that's not them or players that they know are town. I'm pretty lazy so gimmie a few hours here but we are going to do an exercise in which I will give my reasons why I suspect/don't suspect a slot and I want you to put them in the order for which I should read them. Be sure to add any reasoning that you wish to add that you feel that I am overlooking.

[I Am Innocent]

Oh hey, I love my ISO. IAI was defending Ika. So his attack on d3x for (partly) defending Ika is hypocritical.
I'd probably rather lynch IAI for that than d3x.

Yes I had trouble seeing scum ika hammer when flubber showed intent to do so D1 (why not let the other player do it instead of drawing attention to urself). Now I think it is likely they were both scum, so maybe the goon thought it was better to draw the heat over his partner.

Still you make a point that I'd like to counter, as they were some important diffences in d3x's defense and mine. If one person "partly" defended ika, it was me. I defended him in the middle of the day when nero was pushing him. d3x started the day

doing damage control in his first post

, trying to push blame to others (mason garmr, mason DS, town ABR, and to a lesser degree, Flubber).

Difference #1.

Difference #2, the bigger one, I was critical to getting ika lynched. RM was up 7-6 votes when I voted ika, and continued to push ika afterwards:

Interesting that of the first 7 players on penguins final wagon, 6 are either currently voting RM or have voted him today. (The 8th vote on that wagon was RM himself, followed by the self vote then Ikas hammer.)

I'm going to do a 180 here and:

unvote Nero Cain
Vote ika

I believe this makes 7 votes a piece (will move to RM to prevent a no lynch)

Three players voting ika that have or are willing to switch to RM...but none the other way.

Makes me want this ika lynch even more

No it's not it's the same people that pushed penguin

in reference to

Information-wise RM is the better lynch.

[I Am Innocent]

What was d3x doing during the RM vs ika saga:

I'll be on periodically for the next few hours. After that, I cannot guarantee that I'll be around for the deadline.

hint hint, cannot guarantee that he'll be around for the deadline....to change his vote. But then he magically appears:

omw

@Kthx- IAI just said he'd Hammer midget to avoid a No Lynch. Why are you switching?

/sigh

Your thoughts on ika include this...

Maybe RM is a scum PR and ika isn't

And just because he isn't here now, doesn't mean he wouldn't be here at the deadline, but w/e.

No use crying over spilled milk.

Hey look! IAI's here...

Someone not only was here, but didn't seem happy with the way things turned out.

So you had me, instrumental in getting ika lynched vs d3x trying every which way to keep ika alive at the deadline. big difference.

[Nero Cain]

IAI. Do you think me and TDA are scum?

[I Am Innocent]

My preference is still d3x > SC > flubber > kthx >>>>>> RM (vanilla town compromise lynch to help ring up the players to the left) > then everyone else

[I Am Innocent]

IAI. Do you think me and TDA are scum?

Nope

[I Am Innocent]

I think you are both completely wrong on d3x. I think you are so worried that he might be town and if he is it will cost you an auto lynch D5.

[I Am Innocent]

TDA asked me my read on kthx, I had a strong town read on him at the end of D2, but he has dropped to null vs possible scum if there are 5.

[I Am Innocent]

I'll be around at the deadline, let's not panic folks, our one caught scum was a deadline lynch

I'd like to see those that suspect SC and/or d3x come together. The scum are obviously not bussing, or at worst pretending the way kthx did for about 2 secs on SC earlier.

[I Am Innocent]

garmr/DS, any chance you'd vote SC? If the answer is no, I think the two viable lynches are back to d3x for the good guys and RM.