New York 181 -- Game Over

[Egg]

1) What charisma? I mean, I feel like she's playing more to the scum meta you are desribing than the town one so if you are still townreading her, you're doing a shitty job of describing her meta.

2) ok, neither one will probably happen then which is fine

[ika]

1) What charisma? I mean, I feel like she's playing more to the scum meta you are desribing than the town one so if you are still townreading her, you're doing a shitty job of describing her meta.

2) ok, neither one will probably happen then which is fine

1) then vote her and lynch her. look i suck with describing it and you haev no incentive to go read games so we are just reaching an impass.

[Nikanor]

Egg, thanks for the Garmr iso but I have no idea how you took the exact opposite thing that I did from each of his posts.
dragon's posting is getting worse and worse. ik nobody is gonna lynch garmr with me today but it's getting tougher and tougher to decide whether i wanna change over to ika, davesaz or dragonspawn.

[ika]

do me do me do me do me!

[Nikanor]

later

[Nikanor]

Vote: dragonspawn.

[elusive]

I'll be here in media res later tonight, ask away questions or whatever.

[elusive]

I have no meta on this site quite yet, so instead of trying to meta me perhaps try to work with mindsets. What scum mindset do you see in particular posts or what scum behaviors do you see? Build a case out of what's there rather then ephemeral.

[texcat]

if it helps, the person role im talking about is you.....

dont worry though your safe as long as im alive

Me and dragon. I have an entire chart made of who I think is what role right now.

Would you like to join in on sepcualting roles?

This still looks like a

really really bad

idea. Are you actually saying out loud that you think dragonspawn has a power role? Or are you just role fishing?

UNVOTE: elusive
VOTE: ika

[ika]

if it helps, the person role im talking about is you.....

dont worry though your safe as long as im alive

Me and dragon. I have an entire chart made of who I think is what role right now.

Would you like to join in on sepcualting roles?

This still looks like a

really really bad

idea. Are you actually saying out loud that you think dragonspawn has a power role? Or are you just role fishing?

UNVOTE: elusive
VOTE: ika

delibertate role fishing, this is how i play open games i rolehunt. congradulations on your opertunistic vote hop though

[texcat]

[dragonspawn]

Seriously considering switching my vote to Wake.

and a whole nothing is why my vote stays on you.

[ika]

the struggle is real

Seriously considering switching my vote to Wake.

and a whole nothing is why my vote stays on you.

you should consider wake a bit more dragon

[House]

PSA

: If somebody directs a post to a specific player, please reserve your comments until that player responds.

kthx.

Addendum: Unless that player is Flubbernugget addressing me.

Then, comment away.

[davesaz]

Regarding ika:

• I find role fishing to be natural for all alignments, though misguided for town. This means it isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still a bad idea and therefore anti-town.
  
• I'm more worried about the "town block", which in my mind has always represented a technique that scum use to get themselves thought of as conftown. I don't see town players using it here, where there is no out of thread communication. On some other site's I've played on, where outside comms were ok, it was useful to have a trusted set, but I don't see the benefit here and the downside is way too steep.
  
• The somewhat unfounded support for elusive still feels like it could come from scum knowing she's town. Allowing the support to erode is supposed to throw us off that scent.

[Nobody Special]

Mikazuki has requested replacement. Searching....


Votecount incoming -- about ten minutes.

[ika]

Regarding ika:

• I find role fishing to be natural for all alignments, though misguided for town. This means it isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still a bad idea and therefore anti-town.
  
• I'm more worried about the "town block", which in my mind has always represented a technique that scum use to get themselves thought of as conftown. I don't see town players using it here, where there is no out of thread communication. On some other site's I've played on, where outside comms were ok, it was useful to have a trusted set, but I don't see the benefit here and the downside is way too steep.
  
• The somewhat unfounded support for elusive still feels like it could come from scum knowing she's town. Allowing the support to erode is supposed to throw us off that scent.

cus im bored with the game lets have some fun in responding:

first point: 100% true, but my play by default is anti-town. so not really (and cant really) argue there
2nd point: agian fair, but you dont see me pushing the townblock super hard right now do you? I just gave a general read list of plays who i consider town. It doesnt mean that they have to do the same.
3rd point: plz read the damn game, i have stated this like 5 times now: her read is based off anohter site. im not that fucking dumb to try to wk her ass. if wanted to do such thing i would do it with someone i could prob get away with (like SW by delibertly buddying or house to make him super paranoid)

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here lets play my favorite game called "whos my scum buddie?"

davez: whos my scum buddies and why?
whos scum after you find out im just a plain townsperson who is boead?

[davesaz]

I don't usually look for scum teams at this point. Just looking at more than one candidate is sufficient and trying to link them just gets in the way of logic.
My other current scum read is Flubber. I kinda think one of the least active not-being-replaced players is likely to be scum.
That does not mean I'm going to rule out any of the players being replaced, just that I tend to look at the ones who stay first.

SK is a special case, need to let that cook a bit. I tend to think it will be someone most people are reading as town, if they're good at the role. If they're bad at the role, they'll look like scum without any reasonable connections.

[davesaz]

We need a couple good wagons, or at least noticeable pressure, to kick things loose.

[SilverWolf]

IMO-ika is most likely town who is trying to liven the game up, he may be bored and anti-town but he's probably not scum acting this way. I've seen him as scum one other time and lack of effort, trolling, getting angry, and hammering people at L-1 was his big thing. He never tried to figure out roles or cared about making the game interesting.

[SilverWolf]

We need a couple good wagons, or at least noticeable pressure, to kick things loose.

Who would you recommend?

[ika]

We need a couple good wagons, or at least noticeable pressure, to kick things loose.

Who would you recommend?

*volunteers to be wagoned*

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.07

Nikanor - 3 - Mikazuki, elusive, Garmr
dragonspawn - 2 - Aneninen, Nikanor
Egg - 2 - Albert B. Rampage, SilverWolf
ika - 2 - davesaz, texcat
Aneninen - 1 - T S O
DeltaWave - 1 - dragonspawn
elusive - 1 - Egg
Flubbernugget - 1 - House
House - 1 - Flubbernugget
SilverWolf - 1 - DeltaWave
T S O - 1 - Klingoncelt
Wake88 - 1 - ika

Not Voting: freeko, Shiro, Wake88

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-13 13:25:47)

V/LA: Wake88, through Friday, February 27

[DeltaWave]

Seriously considering switching my vote to Wake.

and a whole nothing is why my vote stays on you.

oh shit I'm so scared

[SilverWolf]

VOTE: Wake88