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Post Post #7200 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:56 am

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i've been looking at this for about an hour and 45 minutes now and all i have to show for it is a dump in the hood qt. i am absolutely no closer to getting a satisfactory answer than when i started.
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Post Post #7201 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:00 pm

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i now have a sudden overwhelming impulse to vote esp
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Post Post #7202 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:00 pm

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VOTE: esp
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Post Post #7203 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:03 pm

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If I ask why again, will I get an answer?
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Post Post #7204 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:05 pm

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looking more

my desire to lynch anyone not in the roman neighborhood is at exactly zero
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Post Post #7205 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:08 pm

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In post 7203, ZeL1nK wrote:If I ask why again, will I get an answer?

probably not immediately b/c i'm still scattered

BUT

i think andy was the scumkill

and i think that's important somehow
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Post Post #7206 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:10 pm

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I sincerely doubt he was a scum kill.
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Post Post #7207 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:11 pm

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what makes you doubt that?
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Post Post #7208 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:14 pm

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Because not only was he very lynchable (high on a lot of people's suspicion lists), there are many, many, many other people in this game it makes more sense to shoot (like, oh, I don't know, anyone who wasn't lynch bait).

It seems about a thousand times more likely he was shot by FourTrouble than shot by bad guys.
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Post Post #7209 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:15 pm

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In post 7198, ZeL1nK wrote:I want to lynch TSO today (shock and awe as nobody saw this plot twist) but I have popcorn ready and waiting for mastin's
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And when mastin inevitably has no reveal, you'll want to lynch me over her. Just like yesterday. A pretty happy set of circumstances, no?
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Post Post #7210 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:15 pm

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In post 7208, ZeL1nK wrote:It seems about a thousand times more likely he was shot by FourTrouble than shot by bad guys.


Where do you propose the scum kill went?
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Post Post #7211 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:19 pm

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In post 7208, ZeL1nK wrote:Because not only was he very lynchable (high on a lot of people's suspicion lists), there are many, many, many other people in this game it makes more sense to shoot (like, oh, I don't know, anyone who wasn't lynch bait).

mmmmmm i wouldn't have voted him

neither would ooba

and it doesn't hurt that scum just flipped in the egyptian hood
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Post Post #7212 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:20 pm

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If mastin claimed scum, posted her role PM word for word proving she was scum and the mod for some reason didn't mod kill her, I would still want to lynch you over her (even if you weren't one of the partners listed in her role PM).

That is how much I want to lynch you, TSO.

But we can still be friends, right?

I would rather not speculate on where the scum kill went, given there are many possibilities. It seems about as silly as me saying, "where do you propose FourTrouble's kill went?"

I don't see the bad guys killing Andrius. It's as simple as that.
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Post Post #7213 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:23 pm

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I am in Mastin's neighborhood and still waiting for the resolution of the plan we have in place. I do not believe it's possible for me to know for sure that nothing interfered with it, but if I understand everything from my reading after replacing in, we
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be able to basically function as a mason team at this point in my neighborhood. I'm waiting for Mastin to show up and confirm everything worked as expected and then I will want to go through all the logic myself to make sure I've not been duped.

In other words, I won't be endorsing Mastin's claims without being convinced myself, and seeing as I'm in the neighborhood and know everything that has been kept close to the vest, I'll be quite happy to answer questions if Mastin shows up with some obvious dodge, and unless She has some amazingly believable reason to ask for
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I would almost certainly be on that wagon.

All of this is pointless speculation until Mastin shows up though. So far there's nothing in our neighborhood for today.
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Post Post #7214 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:24 pm

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there's also this
In post 7190, Espeonage wrote:Ok, pissed off.

First you guys decide to lynch town, Andy and I were getting bloody pissed off and waiting until we could come back and get the hell rid of that wagon. Andy provided a compelling argument for why Ank was town and I accepted that.
Second you guys don't even let us do that. You go and bloody make the lynch when there is still ages on the clock and two people who have fucking opinions.
Thirdly, whoever the fuck shot Andy, and I doubt it was scum, needs to get their head out of their arse. Why the fuck would you shoot someone that had just spent two phases with someone to try and get a handle on the player. I was intending to come in here to a fucking happy place and be able to reign terror with Andy, and honestly a dead Andy is wind out of my sails.

Now mastin, fucking tell me something that can improve my mood or I will push Andy's number 1 wanted lynch in his honor.


when andy came back to tell us what he talked about, he did NOT leave us w/ the impression everything between him and esp were all buddy-buddy. i don't really buy into this "happy place" narrative esp has going on here.
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Post Post #7215 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:26 pm

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In post 7212, ZeL1nK wrote:If mastin claimed scum, posted her role PM word for word proving she was scum and the mod for some reason didn't mod kill her, I would still want to lynch you over her (even if you weren't one of the partners listed in her role PM).

That is how much I want to lynch you, TSO.


It's a pity people seem to be so blatantly ignoring you. It's almost like they think you're an imbecile or something. We are still friends, though.

In post 7212, ZeL1nK wrote:I would rather not speculate on where the scum kill went, given there are many possibilities. It seems about as silly as me saying, "where do you propose FourTrouble's kill went?"

I don't see the bad guys killing Andrius. It's as simple as that.


So your only comment about the nightkill is "I don't think it was Andrius"? You have no theory, right or wrong, on who or where it actually went?
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Post Post #7216 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:26 pm

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yep, looking at what andy said last night + esp's opening posts, stuff doesn't add up

VOTE: espeonage
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Post Post #7217 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:27 pm

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It wasn't happy happy. I didn't even tell him I went from scum reading him to town reading him. He might have told you about my zelink read though.
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Post Post #7218 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:27 pm

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In post 7214, Heartless wrote:there's also this
In post 7190, Espeonage wrote:Ok, pissed off.

First you guys decide to lynch town, Andy and I were getting bloody pissed off and waiting until we could come back and get the hell rid of that wagon. Andy provided a compelling argument for why Ank was town and I accepted that.
Second you guys don't even let us do that. You go and bloody make the lynch when there is still ages on the clock and two people who have fucking opinions.
Thirdly, whoever the fuck shot Andy, and I doubt it was scum, needs to get their head out of their arse. Why the fuck would you shoot someone that had just spent two phases with someone to try and get a handle on the player. I was intending to come in here to a fucking happy place and be able to reign terror with Andy, and honestly a dead Andy is wind out of my sails.

Now mastin, fucking tell me something that can improve my mood or I will push Andy's number 1 wanted lynch in his honor.


when andy came back to tell us what he talked about, he did NOT leave us w/ the impression everything between him and esp were all buddy-buddy. i don't really buy into this "happy place" narrative esp has going on here.


While I do agree with this - what specifically sparked your urge to vote Imperium?

I've been getting that urge all game.
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Post Post #7219 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:28 pm

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In post 7212, ZeL1nK wrote:I don't see the bad guys killing Andrius. It's as simple as that.

i do
and it is as simple as that

also, how do you balance multiple day kills?

give scum a day commute. that's what
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Post Post #7220 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:30 pm

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In post 7211, Heartless wrote:
In post 7208, ZeL1nK wrote:Because not only was he very lynchable (high on a lot of people's suspicion lists), there are many, many, many other people in this game it makes more sense to shoot (like, oh, I don't know, anyone who wasn't lynch bait).

mmmmmm i wouldn't have voted him

neither would ooba

and it doesn't hurt that scum just flipped in the egyptian hood

OK. That's great to hear! It doesn't change what I said, though!

By the way, if there
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Do you perhaps have other thoughts on the game? Do you think TSO is town?
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Post Post #7221 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:32 pm

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In post 7220, ZeL1nK wrote:By the way, if there is a rat in our neighborhood (and I doubt there is one), it would almost certainly have to be Espeonage. But I have no reason to believe that is the case. So your malice towards the Romans seems ill-placed.

well it's not in ours. i'm at about 95% on that.
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Post Post #7222 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:32 pm

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also, your vig argument cuts both ways

i think tso would be ahead of andy in the vig kill line
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Post Post #7223 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:38 pm

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In post 7220, ZeL1nK wrote:By the way, if there is a rat in our neighborhood (and I doubt there is one), it would almost certainly have to be Espeonage. But I have no reason to believe that is the case. So your malice towards the Romans seems ill-placed.

well did he describe what happened btwn. him and andy in the neighborhood? and how?

b/c andy's description to us there was definitely a bit of friction there, not this "reign of terror together bffs" thing
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Post Post #7224 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:52 pm

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In post 7215, T S O wrote:So your only comment about the nightkill is "I don't think it was Andrius"? You have no theory, right or wrong, on who or where it actually went?

I have theories. I see no merit in talking about them, though, since they are just theories and won't add anything to the game. I could also be wrong if FourTrouble claims to have not shot Andrius, so there's no point in going into all the possible explanations for a missing scum kill. The fact that you're oddly fixated on this doesn't surprise me, though, since you're attempting to cling to something that isn't important and use it as a way to appear like you're doing something. But alas, people will continue ignoring this and pretend you're not an incredibly obvious bad guy.

In post 7219, Heartless wrote:also, how do you balance multiple day kills?

give scum a day commute. that's what

This seems like rather flawed setup speculation, for a number of reasons.

In post 7222, Heartless wrote:i think tso would be ahead of andy in the vig kill line

I specifically told FourTrouble not to shoot TSO. TSO specifically claimed he would not die to a vig kill. There was no reason to shoot TSO over lynching him.

In post 7223, Heartless wrote:well did he describe what happened btwn. him and andy in the neighborhood? and how?

He gave a summary.

The night basically played out like this. Espeonage came into the neighborhood saying he thought I was a bad guy, I wondered where I'd gone wrong in raising him, Imperium said vanilla was better than chocolate and many boos were heard at this opinion, Imperium doesn't know what an Ornithomimus is (yes, I'm serious), I asked Espeonage about Andrius, he said probably town, I asked Espeonage for a run-down of the conversation, he said that they hadn't talked that much but they did talk about Harry Potter fan fictions and Anamikus being town, Andrius thinking mastin is scum, Andrius thinking his neighborhood was town and apparently a little talk about Imperium and I (though he admitted this was stretching the extent of their conversation, since they really didn't talk that much apparently).

That's about as much as we discussed about that particular subject.

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