@MOD Posting to say that I will be on LA once more cause I am kinda busy because we are moving out and I dont want to take a 3rd prod by accident like the 2nd. Gonna ask for a big one like till April 15 I will post most of the time from phone and stuff but just to be safe and people know the cirscumstances
Now that the above is out of the way.
@Wake why do you insist on delta being hypocritical he explained more than once that his issue isnt that you arent posting(like dramonic ) but the fact that you are posting and quite a lot but not giving reads etc. There is a huge difference between how you are playing and how dramonic plays
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btw tbh dramonic has been quite. Why haven't we voted him at all to make him talk ? Like he hasn't been focused at all.
Now that I have a couple beers and some Totinos pizza rolls, I'm going to share some Wake thoughts.
The impression I get from Wake is that he's "laying low" during the major fights of the game, probably to keep himself alive until end-game. It makes sense; one scum is dead, and the remaining two scum are probably pretty active (ARS IS ONE OF THEM), so having a scumlord who could go into stealth mode and ride it out until the end would be a huge asset. You'll notice that I put the most pressure on Wake at particular moments. I see these big conflicts and Wake is just sort of sitting on the sidelines without contributing anything of substance, then I hop down his throat and suddenly he becomes active.
Now, I can understand being busy for real life reasons. Absolutely I can understand that. However, that's not my problem with Wake. I've said this about a million times but Wake misrepresents it every single time. That's definitely contributing to my reading of this guy. I say something like "Wake, this isn't about your activity it's about your lack of taking firm opinions..." to which he invariably responds with something like "Well I'm sorry that I'm so busy because I have to work to pay my way through my education!" Well, that's not what I was knocking you for.
The only thing that gives me pause with Wake is that if he really is pulling this strategy, he will never be taken seriously in the future when he claims that work is keeping him busy. On the other hand, I can't shake this impression that he's trying to be the "ace in the hole" in case the more aggressive scum strategies don't pan out. He's clearly here, reading the game, and participating... but he only starts contributing anything of substance when I get hyper-aggressive on him. My big problem with him Day One is that he could give plenty of town-reads but couldn't give a scum-read. If you can read the game enough to get a town read, you get a scum read; unless, of course, you were trying to be as non-controversial as possible.
A scumlord who never really pointed any fingers would be a huge asset in the end game, because they'd almost be like a blank slate. No grudges or alliances would have been built-up, and they could just hammer whichever townie placed a vote. That's exactly the role I see Wake trying to take.
When there's trouble, you call DW.
"For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect."
Freeko and Shiro both have good points. There's a long time left in Day Two and we shouldn't hammer this too quickly. I still want to hear something out of Dramonic.
When there's trouble, you call DW.
"For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect."
In post 2921, Titus wrote: I say something like "Wake, this isn't about your activity it's about your lack of taking firm opinions..."
I CAN'T TAKE FIRM OPINIONS WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE ENERGY TO MAKE THEM.
You keep pushing me for reads when I didn't even know House was replaced, and I haven't read most of the game. How the fuck am I supposed to take a *firm* opinion on people when more than half of them are scummy as fuck and the other part is either stupid, reckless, or behavioral? I don't have the time to read about 3,000 posts. Read it THE FUCK again.
What pisses me off is that you do this
yet you won't even
try
to push dramonic for his reads and opinions. He's only contributed less than 20 sentences!!! Un-fucking-real. Where the hell are you asking dramonic for his firm opinions? He's not working 90+ hours a week. You are trying to capitalize on my lack of activity due to real-life work in order to achieve a mislynch. As Scum you have no reason to actually listen to me or get that the time I have right now isn't the time necessary to provide what it is you're asking of me.
It's Day 2. I don't know who's who yet. And I haven't read the game like others have. At the moment i'm in the hospital and am only able to post when my patient is safe and not being violent. I'm not going to risk my job or safety because you're demanding that I post huge, crystallized reads on players here. If that's what you're demanding you can piss off. You're not helping the situation by trying to stress me to contribute when I don't have the means for it.
In post 2930, DeltaWave wrote: My big problem with him Day One is that he could give plenty of town-reads but couldn't give a scum-read. If you can read the game enough to get a town read, you get a scum read; unless, of course, you were trying to be as non-controversial as possible.
Except that's pure bullshit and you know it.
Day 1 no one knows fuck-all about anyone or anything. Only the egotistical pricks of the forum rush to hard conclusions Day 1, because they're neither as cautious or intelligent as they think they are. I don't scumread players Day 1, unless something actually crazy happens, like a damning scumslip. Townreads are easier to come to Day 1 and on, but they're only tentative, and as the mind chews on them and the ever-critical eye scans the game, those Townreads eventually melt down to something more accurate.
Do you even know how I play? You should ask House. And dragonspawn.
In post 2935, AngryPidgeon wrote:Lynch titus with me then. You don't even have to feel bad if she flips town.
———✸ What good reason is there for me to help you lynch Titus today?
———✸ How exactly are you reading her and why?
———✸ How well do you know Scum-Titus' scum game? I was once told that she nitpicks the details as Scum. Can you verify from your own personal experiences if there is any truth to this or not?
I think he's being defensive because people are pressing him. Which is also not scummy.
That's sometimes right sometimes wrong. If Wake town is confident and Wake scum is not, then it is alignment indicative. Confidence is not alignment indicative with me.
In post 2935, AngryPidgeon wrote:Lynch titus with me then. You don't even have to feel bad if she flips town.
———✸ What good reason is there for me to help you lynch Titus today?
———✸ How exactly are you reading her and why?
———✸ How well do you know Scum-Titus' scum game? I was once told that she nitpicks the details as Scum. Can you verify from your own personal experiences if there is any truth to this or not?
You should know the answer to this last questionas we have played together a lot.
In post 2921, Titus wrote: I say something like "Wake, this isn't about your activity it's about your lack of taking firm opinions..."
I CAN'T TAKE FIRM OPINIONS WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE ENERGY TO MAKE THEM.
You keep pushing me for reads when I didn't even know House was replaced, and I haven't read most of the game. How the fuck am I supposed to take a *firm* opinion on people when more than half of them are scummy as fuck and the other part is either stupid, reckless, or behavioral? I don't have the time to read about 3,000 posts. Read it THE FUCK again.
What pisses me off is that you do this
yet you won't even
try
to push dramonic for his reads and opinions. He's only contributed less than 20 sentences!!! Un-fucking-real. Where the hell are you asking dramonic for his firm opinions? He's not working 90+ hours a week. You are trying to capitalize on my lack of activity due to real-life work in order to achieve a mislynch. As Scum you have no reason to actually listen to me or get that the time I have right now isn't the time necessary to provide what it is you're asking of me.
It's Day 2. I don't know who's who yet. And I haven't read the game like others have. At the moment i'm in the hospital and am only able to post when my patient is safe and not being violent. I'm not going to risk my job or safety because you're demanding that I post huge, crystallized reads on players here. If that's what you're demanding you can piss off. You're not helping the situation by trying to stress me to contribute when I don't have the means for it.
She's being anti town with the whole freeko/abr/ika bullshit. HHer preferred votes are mostly on probable townies. Her prodding of you is pointless and just makes you aggravated which in turn makes me aggravated.
As of right now, I actually feel other people are scummier, but I'm willing to vote inside my short list of not - town reads so long as there is support for it, which there is. Titus has the bonus of misreading yourself and Anen aggressively which makes me more inclined to lynch her.
I'm not going to talk about meta much because I don't like meta. She was scum in my mini theme and in SR2. I waffled on her in that game until the end of d1 where she posted something desperately scummy and I lynched her.
Titus is known for being unconventional. Nitpicky might be a way of viewing that. Why are you asking about that specifically?
In post 2930, DeltaWave wrote:Now that I have a couple beers and some Totinos pizza rolls, I'm going to share some Wake thoughts.
The impression I get from Wake is that he's "laying low" during the major fights of the game, probably to keep himself alive until end-game. It makes sense; one scum is dead, and the remaining two scum are probably pretty active (ARS IS ONE OF THEM), so having a scumlord who could go into stealth mode and ride it out until the end would be a huge asset. You'll notice that I put the most pressure on Wake at particular moments. I see these big conflicts and Wake is just sort of sitting on the sidelines without contributing anything of substance, then I hop down his throat and suddenly he becomes active.
Now, I can understand being busy for real life reasons. Absolutely I can understand that. However, that's not my problem with Wake. I've said this about a million times but Wake misrepresents it every single time. That's definitely contributing to my reading of this guy. I say something like "Wake, this isn't about your activity it's about your lack of taking firm opinions..." to which he invariably responds with something like "Well I'm sorry that I'm so busy because I have to work to pay my way through my education!" Well, that's not what I was knocking you for.
The only thing that gives me pause with Wake is that if he really is pulling this strategy, he will never be taken seriously in the future when he claims that work is keeping him busy. On the other hand, I can't shake this impression that he's trying to be the "ace in the hole" in case the more aggressive scum strategies don't pan out. He's clearly here, reading the game, and participating... but he only starts contributing anything of substance when I get hyper-aggressive on him. My big problem with him Day One is that he could give plenty of town-reads but couldn't give a scum-read. If you can read the game enough to get a town read, you get a scum read; unless, of course, you were trying to be as non-controversial as possible.
A scumlord who never really pointed any fingers would be a huge asset in the end game, because they'd almost be like a blank slate. No grudges or alliances would have been built-up, and they could just hammer whichever townie placed a vote. That's exactly the role I see Wake trying to take.
The past version of this setup Wake and I had a massive T v T fight. He was still busy.
Attacking players for vla is not cool and rarely right.
In post 2941, AngryPidgeon wrote:She's being anti town with the whole freeko/abr/ika bullshit. HHer preferred votes are mostly on probable townies. Her prodding of you is pointless and just makes you aggravated which in turn makes me aggravated.
As of right now, I actually feel other people are scummier, but I'm willing to vote inside my short list of not - town reads so long as there is support for it, which there is. Titus has the bonus of misreading yourself and Anen aggressively which makes me more inclined to lynch her.
I'm not going to talk about meta much because I don't like meta. She was scum in my mini theme and in SR2. I waffled on her in that game until the end of d1 where she posted something desperately scummy and I lynched her.
Titus is known for being unconventional. Nitpicky might be a way of viewing that. Why are you asking about that specifically?
My Anen read is not based on a read. It is based on votes.
In post 2942, Titus wrote:
The past version of this setup Wake and I had a massive T v T fight. He was still busy.
Attacking players for vla is not cool and rarely right.
I agree. I would never attack a player for being VLA.
Wake, regardless of what strategy you're using right now, I don't want you to come away with hard feelings over this if you truly believe that's why I'm going up your ass so far that I can clean the back of your teeth.
When there's trouble, you call DW.
"For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect."
In post 2946, DeltaWave wrote:Wake, regardless of what strategy you're using right now, I don't want you to come away with hard feelings over this if you truly believe that's why I'm going up your ass so far that I can clean the back of your teeth.
I'm a hoot
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