Open 591: C9++, The Lunatic Ayslum (Game Over: Town Win!)
-
-
BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 23692
- Joined: April 10, 2014
- Location: Liverpool, UK
-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
-
-
Collatz Townie
- Townie
- Townie
- Posts: 66
- Joined: March 18, 2015
In post 70, DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Collatz
Sometimes it's nice to jump around and see what sticks. I'm happy with BBT and his response—if anything it's more of a townslip if all role PMs end with the same confirm message—but I like to vote to test people, get used to it.
I don't like Collatz' response to this though. I'm an obvious target because of my vote hopping, and he's taking full advantage of this to make a case against me without questioning whether it's actually a scumtell. What merit does vote hopping this early in the game have to scum that it doesn't have to town? What would make scum more inclined to vote hop than town? I don't know, and I don't think Collatz knows either. I think he's just looking for an easy way to seem pro-town.
I'm not voting for you because I want to appear pro-town (well, I am but doesn't everyone?) I'm voting for you because I find your actions to be relatively scummy. Are they a 100% scum tell? No, but they are still scummy. It's not really the vote hopping itself that is scummy but it's the fact that none of you votes have had any reasons behind them. But that's not even the scummiest thing. What I find worst is that when I called you out for switching your vote to Alchemist21 you switched it back to Amy Farrah Fowler.-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
In post 77, Collatz wrote:What I find worst is that when I called you out for switching your vote to Alchemist21 you switched it back to Amy Farrah Fowler.
Do you think scum is more likely to do that than town?-
-
Otolia Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1496
- Joined: February 10, 2011
- Location: Paris, France
In post 73, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Do you think he can correctly predict my actions?
So I've said something about me that I've done in the past, and now it has become me saying I can predict your actions.
The world doesn't revolve around you. I know you're British and you tend to think that way but still ... In any case, welcome to the game EuroBro-
-
BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 23692
- Joined: April 10, 2014
- Location: Liverpool, UK
So this is you not talking about me, right?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
-
Collatz Townie
- Townie
- Townie
- Posts: 66
- Joined: March 18, 2015
-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 51, DarkLightA wrote:In post 49, curiouskarmadog wrote:I just saw midget as town, one shot vig a person who got a guilty on scum....because he wasnt reading the thread.
if all things constant and someone has to die today, it should be him.
Link?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60843NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
Marcrell Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 601
- Joined: July 22, 2013
Denies town information/pressure in the starting phase.DarkLightA wrote:Why would scum do it?
Yes, I was referring to the game I had with RandomMidget.
I'd say vote-hopping becomes more scummy once we leave RVS. It can be reasoned in RVS dependibg in the situation, but later it's mostly bandwagoning if you're hopping. I'd say pretty null right now.
In post 66, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 64, Otolia wrote:@DarkLightA : That's a pretty weak vote. He was informed but didn't read his PM that carefully. Nothing to get your panties in a bunch !
Before I catch up, this post is horrible.
This and his follow up are pure nonsense. One can assume that you didn't read your PM's fully if you didn't know to confirm in thread. He's either getting uber defensive at a perceived accusation or trying to create scum tells out of thin air.-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 52, Randomnamechange wrote:Multiple people said to lynch zeb if tip flipped scum. He wouldve been lynxhed
Anyway, im putting more effort into thus game.
VOTE: CKD
ummm...one person (scum) said that.
you werent not reading..
why are you putting MORE effort into this game first that game?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 57, Randomnamechange wrote:
He's making it out to be worse than it is. I also caught and pushed scum all day 1 and 2.
wait you did what now?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
Otolia Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1496
- Joined: February 10, 2011
- Location: Paris, France
In post 80, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:He was informed but didn't read his PM that carefully.
I tried to put myself in your shoes. But you're right, I thought something and said another.-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 53, Marcrell wrote:I found it. Open 558 Hope plus 1. Lost in lylo when I CCed scum claiming and was lynched.
Also VOTE: curiouskarmadog. I'm not seeing his wagon on random.
what part are you not seeing?
my vote page 2 on a wagon "if all things are constant"? Do you think all things will stay constant today?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 86, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 52, Randomnamechange wrote:Multiple people said to lynch zeb if tip flipped scum. He wouldve been lynxhed
Anyway, im putting more effort into thus game.
VOTE: CKD
ummm...one person (scum) said that.
you werentnot reading..
why are you putting MORE effort into this gamefirstversus that game?
love proofreading.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
Collatz Townie
- Townie
- Townie
- Posts: 66
- Joined: March 18, 2015
Why would scum switch their vote? I don't know. But I also can't see Town switching their vote. In fact, I find it less likely for Town to switch their vote simply because the will not want to stand out in any way. As for what scum would stand to gain from it I, again, do not know. The whole thing has kind of confused me but when it happened used it as an oppurtunity to try and get some information early in the game. As for why I still think your are scummy it's because of your vote on BBT and because of the way you voted for me once I called you out on your vote hopping and voted for you because of it-
-
Marcrell Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 601
- Joined: July 22, 2013
In post 89, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 53, Marcrell wrote:I found it. Open 558 Hope plus 1. Lost in lylo when I CCed scum claiming and was lynched.
Also VOTE: curiouskarmadog. I'm not seeing his wagon on random.
what part are you not seeing?
my vote page 2 on a wagon "if all things are constant"? Do you think all things will stay constant today?
No not really. It's a new game. Unless you're referring to this game, which without any day abilities will stay constant today. But you seem hyper-serious. I've fucked up like that before. Sometimes you're right and it tirns out, sometimes you're wrong. Bad decision. I don't like policy lynches on people day one though.-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
In post 85, Marcrell wrote:
Denies town information/pressure in the starting phase.DarkLightA wrote:Why would scum do it?
I'm talking to Collatz—I'm interested in his opinions, not theory.-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
In post 91, Collatz wrote:Why would scum switch their vote? I don't know. But I also can't see Town switching their vote. In fact, I find it less likely for Town to switch their vote simply because the will not want to stand out in any way. As for what scum would stand to gain from it I, again, do not know. The whole thing has kind of confused me but when it happened used it as an oppurtunity to try and get some information early in the game. As for why I still think your are scummy it's because of your vote on BBT and because of the way you voted for me once I called you out on your vote hopping and voted for you because of it
Love this.-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 92, Marcrell wrote:In post 89, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 53, Marcrell wrote:I found it. Open 558 Hope plus 1. Lost in lylo when I CCed scum claiming and was lynched.
Also VOTE: curiouskarmadog. I'm not seeing his wagon on random.
what part are you not seeing?
my vote page 2 on a wagon "if all things are constant"? Do you think all things will stay constant today?
No not really. It's a new game. Unless you're referring to this game, which without any day abilities will stay constant today. But you seem hyper-serious. I've fucked up like that before. Sometimes you're right and it tirns out, sometimes you're wrong. Bad decision. I don't like policy lynches on people day one though.
it is a policy vote for sure. midget is a liability. until something actually scummy comes along this game...that is where my vote will stay.
would you have preferred a random vote? why or why not?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- This Space for Rant
- Posts: 14229
- Joined: June 17, 2007
- Location: Roanoke, Va
In post 62, DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
Were you not informed that you should confirm in-thread?
I am curious.
I didnt know I was suppose to confirm in thread before I came to this thread. only found that out once I started reading the thread.
sooooo
am I scummy?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
In post 96, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 62, DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
Were you not informed that you should confirm in-thread?
I am curious.
I didnt know I was suppose to confirm in thread before I came to this thread. only found that out once I started reading the thread.
sooooo
am I scummy?
In post 70, DarkLightA wrote:I'm happy with BBT and his response—if anything it's more of a townslip if all role PMs end with the same confirm message—but I like to vote to test people, get used to it.-
-
DarkLightA Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3022
- Joined: August 14, 2009
- Location: Norway
-
-
mnemonicdevice Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 701
- Joined: June 13, 2013
In post 77, Collatz wrote:In post 70, DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Collatz
Sometimes it's nice to jump around and see what sticks. I'm happy with BBT and his response—if anything it's more of a townslip if all role PMs end with the same confirm message—but I like to vote to test people, get used to it.
I don't like Collatz' response to this though. I'm an obvious target because of my vote hopping, and he's taking full advantage of this to make a case against me without questioning whether it's actually a scumtell. What merit does vote hopping this early in the game have to scum that it doesn't have to town? What would make scum more inclined to vote hop than town? I don't know, and I don't think Collatz knows either. I think he's just looking for an easy way to seem pro-town.
I'm not voting for you because I want to appear pro-town (well, I am but doesn't everyone?) I'm voting for you because I find your actions to be relatively scummy. Are they a 100% scum tell? No, but they are still scummy. It's not really the vote hopping itself that is scummy but it's the fact that none of you votes have had any reasons behind them. But that's not even the scummiest thing. What I find worst is that when I called you out for switching your vote to Alchemist21 you switched it back to Amy Farrah Fowler.
I personally think that votehopping is a great thing to do in early game, even after RVS, because it provokes reactions. That is what town seeks to gain from doing it.
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.