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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:13 pm

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In post 144, Mina wrote:
In post 1, Alchemist21 wrote:My favorite alignment is scum, because then you have permission to screw with people. I think I'd like being a Serial Killer better, but so far I haven't had the pleasure (closest I've been was solo'ing a game as the last scum offsite, and I had an unusual game mechanic provide a huge help).

Honesty would have served you better.

Quilford: Because it feels like this player list is really easily PoE-able. You, ETL, and probably serra are town. Now I think Patrick looks town (although he's the one person who I think could really fuck us over if he's scum). Mara looks kind of genuine, except she's sort of in the same general fuzzy bunny scumbag as, e.g., Malakittens in Wicked who posts a lot of nice posts about safer topics, so sure, she can be in my extended lynch pool. But that leaves Alchemist, BPC, and BBmolla. BBmolla is really readable, so we'll know one way or another soon.

And that's without any super-powered innocent children claiming. And without roles that ensure if scum is lynched D1, the game is broken.

I prefer BPC's later posts to his earlier ones, and admittedly, he's someone I can see being middle-of-the-road and overly nice as either alignment. But his earlier posts come across as pretty much the textbook safe, agreeable, "I'm going to say both good and bad things about everyone to keep myself open to lynch them" scumbag. His stances feel middle-of-the-road in a calculated (not sure if that's the best word choice) rather than an indecisive way. Regfan and Empire are annoying and think BPC is town, though. Boo.


I was honest. I prefer being scum because it's usually more enjoyable, but I'm a stronger player as Town, and from a tactical standpoint making me Town is the better move.

I also don't get how people are scumreading me while Townreading BPC. We're doing the same things, just BPC has more words.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:16 pm

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In post 150, Alchemist21 wrote:I also don't get how people are scumreading me while Townreading BPC. We're doing the same things, just BPC has more words.

Do you think BPC is town?
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:17 pm

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In post 144, Mina wrote:
Quilford: Because it feels like this player list is really easily PoE-able. You, ETL, and probably serra are town. Now I think Patrick looks town (although he's the one person who I think could really fuck us over if he's scum). Mara looks kind of genuine, except she's sort of in the same general fuzzy bunny scumbag as, e.g., Malakittens in Wicked who posts a lot of nice posts about safer topics, so sure, she can be in my extended lynch pool. But that leaves Alchemist, BPC, and BBmolla. BBmolla is really readable, so we'll know one way or another soon.


Reads I don't understand here: ETL and Serra. Serra has made like 2 posts, neither with much content. Why the quick town read? And you said you think ETL is fine before, but why? What do you think about the arguments brought up against ETL's points earlier and do you think her posting could be read as scummy then?
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:18 pm

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@Mina, He's null to me. There are people who take a little while longer to get reads in a game, and he hasn't done anything I would consider alignment indicative.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:23 pm

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In post 148, Quilford wrote:VOTE: Alchemist21

No reads. Not scumhunting.


What are your reads then? I honestly don't see that much coming from your slot either.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:26 pm

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Me telling you my reads is not going to solve the problem of you not having any. Nevertheless, I basically did so in my most recent post.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:29 pm

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Mina, why do you think quil is town?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:30 pm

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You criticize me but not BBMolla? I'm starting to think you're just sheeping Mina.

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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:31 pm

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Unlike BBmolla, you've ostensibly read through the entire game.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:32 pm

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In post 156, Ms Marangal wrote:Mina, why do you think quil is town?

He's really, really, really, really, REALLY easy to read.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:36 pm

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He is actually one of my top scum reads though
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:37 pm

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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:37 pm

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And you, serra, and etl are very probably town
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:38 pm

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In post 160, Ms Marangal wrote:He is actually one of my top scum reads though


This is news to me. When did you start scumreading him? Your early posts never implied it.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:38 pm

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*earlier
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:39 pm

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A page ago
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:40 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:40 pm

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Mara, why, in your own words? (p-edit: lol)

If Quilford were scum, then 1) he would barely be posting, and 2) what he would post would be a lot less carefree and relaxed. My team has seen him as scum. He's town unless he took a level in Machiavelli over the summer. (But frankly, he just reads as pretty genuine anyway.)
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:56 pm

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It ended up being more a case of "why not"

ETL hit town rediculously early and serras response to me was highly favorable and it's difficult seeing that actually coming from a town perspective.

I thought your team thinking I picked scum tokens were weird, though empires analysis of my play and behavior was somewhat accurate and I feel like it was a solid move from you guys and, from what I understand of his play, it's very unlikely that he is scum thus, it is very unlikely that you are scum.

Patrick, I think looked townie enough but could be scum if my top three is completely off, and it seems like it might be.

I don't know anything of quils meta so all I have to go off of is what's going on in thread. His pushes were kinda awkward and still kinda is and though his posts seen reasonable enough, I kinda feel like they lack originality and the one push that was kind of original can also kinda explain how he's played so far (read, etl being knew jerky)
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:58 pm

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I also did shortly contemplate him being scum with alch but with current interactions, it seems very unlikely and am worried that he just comes off as scummy and scum might be taking advantage of that
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:58 pm

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Alchemist, what do you make of the distinction I drew between you and BBmolla?
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:02 pm

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In post 170, Quilford wrote:Alchemist, what do you make of the distinction I drew between you and BBmolla?


It was a fair answer. I can see someone not holding them to the same expectations if there's reason to believe they haven't read the thread.

I still think you were sheeping Mina when you voted me though.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:03 pm

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In post 168, Ms Marangal wrote:It ended up being more a case of "why not"

ETL hit town rediculously early and serras response to me was highly favorable and it's difficult seeing that actually coming from a town perspective.

I thought your team thinking I picked scum tokens were weird, though empires analysis of my play and behavior was somewhat accurate and I feel like it was a solid move from you guys and, from what I understand of his play, it's very unlikely that he is scum thus, it is very unlikely that you are scum.

Patrick, I think looked townie enough but could be scum if my top three is completely off, and it seems like it might be.

I don't know anything of quils meta so all I have to go off of is what's going on in thread. His pushes were kinda awkward and still kinda is and though his posts seen reasonable enough, I kinda feel like they lack originality and the one push that was kind of original can also kinda explain how he's played so far (read, etl being knew jerky)


In that first paragraph, are you saying you're Townreading ETL and scumreading Serra?
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:06 pm

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In post 171, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 170, Quilford wrote:Alchemist, what do you make of the distinction I drew between you and BBmolla?


It was a fair answer. I can see someone not holding them to the same expectations if there's reason to believe they haven't read the thread.

I still think you were sheeping Mina when you voted me though.

I think you can see my read on you reverse across the course of #89, #134, #135 and finally #148 if that helps.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:11 pm

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In post 172, Alchemist21 wrote:

In that first paragraph, are you saying you're Townreading ETL and scumreading Serra?


No, he's town.
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