Mini #1647: Eine Kleine Nacht-Mord, Game Over

[Untrod Tripod]

zzz

I'll still take a TTH lynch

[petroleumjelly]

Day Three Vote Count #3

Green Crayons – 1 – prawneater
TellTaleHeart – 1 – Green Crayons

With

7

alive it takes

4

lynch, and

3

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is

April 8, 2015 at 6:35 AM PST

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Not Voting - 6 - ChannelDelibird, Derangement, onion, TellTaleHeart, Untrod Tripod

Countdown

: (expired on 2015-04-08 06:35:00)

ChannelDelibird has been prodded.

[onion]

alright, time to do my part to unstall this shit, because stalling is anti-town.

Tripod, you want to lynch TTH? Both Llama and Equinox didn't like the guy either. Equinox, in 872, is (probably?) agreeing with Derangement's excellently formatted wicket cool boxes post 870. So i'm going to assume those reasons were Equinox's reasons. those reasons boil down to lurking and failing to scumhunt or answer questions, which pretty much just means lurking.

Llama was dead set on TTH, partially because of TTH refusing to answer questions, and partially because of lurking, and partially probably for other reasons but i can't tell because he sucked at explaining himself.

I'd like to add that TTH also voted for our confirmed townies an astounding 6 times, even more than you tripod! so there's that.

If you would be so kind tripod, please to agree or disagree with the above, and add a few reasons of your own if you have them.

-=-

@Prawn, dear prawn, your reasons for voting are not clear, hence my asking. your refusal to answer these sort of questions hurts the town. are you voting GC because you kinda disagreed with kinda half of his kinda cases against me? that's what 919 indicates at least, but it seems like you didn't disagree strongly enough to warrent a vote, and if you did, then why didn't you vote at the time? explain thyself.

-=-

wag now to tackle this GC drunken stuff with poor punctuation. your thing on Derangement has something going for it. i dislike Derangement's recent much more cautious testing of the waters than his previous full frontal logical scumhunting. i guess i don't really have a question for you. keep not lurking, yo.

@TTH and CBD: POST GOD DAMNIT

[Untrod Tripod]

Tripod, you want to lynch TTH? Both Llama and Equinox didn't like the guy either. Equinox, in 872, is (probably?) agreeing with Derangement's excellently formatted wicket cool boxes post 870. So i'm going to assume those reasons were Equinox's reasons. those reasons boil down to lurking and failing to scumhunt or answer questions, which pretty much just means lurking.

Llama was dead set on TTH, partially because of TTH refusing to answer questions, and partially because of lurking, and partially probably for other reasons but i can't tell because he sucked at explaining himself.

I'd like to add that TTH also voted for our confirmed townies an astounding 6 times, even more than you tripod! so there's that.

If you would be so kind tripod, please to agree or disagree with the above, and add a few reasons of your own if you have them.

...what exactly are you trying to say here?

[Derangement]

I rather hoped that TTH and CDB would chime in, since their feedback would have been pretty useful

before

I fully voiced my thoughts in the thread.
So I waited.
Then prods and prodges happened and I waited some more.

I'm not willing to wait longer, so in the interest of moving things forward:
I'm scumreading Crayons and TTH, and have a disturbingly absent read on CDB.

The weird NK gave me pause, and made me want to doublecheck my reads, in case I could find something wrong about any of them.

And then Crayons voted TTH.
Because day 2 left TTH in a position where (even after Equinox was NK'd) she might very well still get lynched, I half-expected that if she is scum, her scum-buddy would try to push someone else, in hopes that maybe some non-TTH wagon would take the spotlight, and she could be saved.

While my initial gut feeling told me that this vote meant I was wrong about either GC or TTH, and this was a case of scum voting town, or town voting scum, now that I had some time to think about it, I

can

see this as bussing:

Scum!GC first voted town!CDB, hoping to ease scum!TTH's life, just like I expected.
He then had some time to think, and found an even better alternative.
Bussing TTH by

starting

the wagon capitalizes on post-NK paranoia by being just the kind of move that distances the two of them, while also putting Crayons in the unique position of having plenty of time to later be persuaded to vote elsewhere without looking like he's vote-hopping.

With this possibility in mind, and provided things stay as they are, I'm willing to lynch:

• Green Crayons - scumread;
  
• TellTaleHeart - scumread, lurking (while active in other threads);
  
• ChannelDelibird - lurking (while active in other threads, even
  after
  his prod was issued).

VOTE: TellTaleHeart
Please contribute.

[Derangement]

I'll also accept a scumclaim or a self-vote as acceptable low-effort alternatives.

[Untrod Tripod]

not gonna vote yet just in case, but consider my vote on TTH in spirit!

[Derangement]

not gonna vote yet just in case, but consider my vote on TTH in spirit!

Is it okay if I ask what the "just in case" is, or would you prefer to explain later?

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean

there's a small but nonzero chance that there's two scum left

it wouldn't be a super balanced setup, but....

I don't want to lose right now

[Green Crayons]

Bussing

I don't bus.

[Green Crayons]

Ergo

Your theory is wrong.

Ergo

Setting up my mislynch after TTH's flip based on your wrong theory is bad.

[onion]

I'll also accept a scumclaim or a self-vote as acceptable low-effort alternatives.

I don't bus.

O_O

[Green Crayons]

You can reduce your eyelids to normal, half-droop.

[prawneater]

Bussing

I don't bus.

Have you literally never bussed?

[Derangement]

I mean

there's a small but nonzero chance that there's two scum left

it wouldn't be a super balanced setup, but....

I don't want to lose right now

Not having played a closed game before, I'm not sure whether unbalanced games are frequent enough for this kind of caution to be warranted, but I can see where you're coming from, and will follow suit.
UNVOTE: TellTaleHeart

Since the only downside to playing it safe is ghost-votes being absent from the vote-counter, I'll try to keep some sort of unofficial accuse-o-meter going every so often.

[Derangement]

Bussing

I don't bus.

There's a problem with this kind of statement.

If you're scum, even if you had not bussed before, you show awareness of it, which means you're also aware enough of your own meta that you can easily go against it when it becomes convenient.

As it stands, I'd like to take it one step further, and point out Mini 692: Boost Mafia as an instance where you

did

bus one of your buddies (TDC).

Ergo

Your theory is wrong.

Ergo

Setting up my mislynch after TTH's flip based on your wrong theory is bad.

I'm not trying to set up any lynches based on associative tells.
I'm merely explaining why I no longer have a problem with thinking you can be scum at the same time as TTH.

I like to think the cases on both of you are good enough to stand on their own.

While my lynch pool remains unchanged, I think I'd prefer to lynch GC first now, if we can.

FOS: Green Crayons

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Unofficial Day Three Accuse-o-meter #3.1

Green Crayons – 1

+1

– prawneater

, Derangement

TellTaleHeart – 1

+1

– Green Crayons

, Untrod Tripod

With

7

alive it takes

4

lynch, and

3

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is

April 8, 2015 at 6:35 AM PST

.

Not Voting - 6 - ChannelDelibird, onion, TellTaleHeart

, Derangement, Untrod Tripod

Countdown

: (expired on 2015-04-08 06:35:00)

[Green Crayons]

Bussing

I don't bus.

Have you literally never bussed?

I'm sure it happened at least once.

Nobody is perfect.

[Green Crayons]

While my lynch pool remains unchanged, I think I'd prefer to lynch GC first now, if we can.
FOS: Green Crayons

lol @ FOS

[Green Crayons]

Stop looking for permission from the thread to vote me.

[Green Crayons]

I mean

there's a small but nonzero chance that there's two scum left

it wouldn't be a super balanced setup, but....

I don't want to lose right now

I don't follow what you're saying.

[Green Crayons]

Bussing

I don't bus.

Have you literally never bussed?

I'm sure it happened at least once.

Nobody is perfect.

But, I will add, that it most certainly hasn't happened in the past 5 years!




No, but seriously, bussing is dumb and I don't bus, and predicating a theory on GC bussing is bad.

[Derangement]

Stop looking for permission from the thread to vote me.

The only thing I'm looking for in the thread right now, regarding you, is two more "ayes", followed by your flip.

[TellTaleHeart]

RL is absolutely kicking my ass right now. I may do a catchup over the weekend and I may not.

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean

there's a small but nonzero chance that there's two scum left

it wouldn't be a super balanced setup, but....

I don't want to lose right now

I don't follow what you're saying.

there's literally nothing else to say to explain it?

[Derangement]

RL is absolutely kicking my ass right now. I may do a catchup over the weekend and I may not.

Sorry to hear about that.

Hope things look better for you soon.