New York 181 -- Game Over

[4nxi3ty]

Shiro - 4 - Albert B. Rampage, dragonspawn, dramonic, pisskop

dragonspawn - 3 - Titus, AngryPidgeon, Aneninen

A Royal Saint - 1 - texcat
AngryPidgeon - 1 - Flubbernugget


Not Voting: ika, A Royal Saint, Shiro, DeltaWave, Egg

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-04-23 22:05:49)

V/LA: Shiro, through Wednesday, April 15; pisskop til April 5

[Egg]

I'm gonna consider myself officially off V/LA on April 13th. I should have some free time on the 10th though and maybe even the 9th. I can't guarantee where my focus will be during that free time though.

Also, for now:

Vote Dramonic

Best guess for SK.

Of the current wagons, I prefer Shiro to dragonspawn so if in two weeks, the vote count looks like it does now, that's where you can consider my vote if nothing changes.

[dramonic]

yknow, if you think I'm the SK I was a good part of all three scum kills, so maybe you should give me til tomorrow to kill the last one too ;p

[Egg]

Lol

[Egg]

To be honest though, that post doesn't make me feel any better. Almost feels like you are bragging about those kills

[dramonic]

It's more interesting than trying to defend against an SK accusation with no case

[Titus]

UNVOTE: dramonic anen is right

VOTE: ap

I want to talk about ap a little more. I'm not sure why his really blatant defense of wake isn't under tighter scrutiny. Defending wake as either alignment had the most benifit to scum, because holy shit was his playstyle tunnelable. As the final scumbuddy or sk, they really need to lay low and any encouragement of keeping discusion on wake pissed time away from town

Defending scum is suspicious but certain scum. I have defended scum when I thought a townie was scum. Quite vehemently sometimes.

We should compare this to World of Warcraft, a known AP scum game.

Were you in that game? I'm not one to meta dive but a summary of the game for him to refute would be nice

So many logical issues with this post. Will hit them when I get back.

[Albert B. Rampage]

gogo let's vote

[Egg]

It's more interesting than trying to defend against an SK accusation with no case

Who do you think is SK? Do you have a case against Shiro?

[texcat]

Egg, I take it that you agree with going after the SK first? I still think that the remaining scum is easier and we won't end up losing valuable players in the hunt. I understand that it makes our cop worthless, but I haven't seen that much value in the cop so far anyway. Although I haven't been able to understand any of the coded messages going back and forth between Ika and Titus.

[Titus]

#3248

First flubber you assume that a player in the game wouldn't be familiar with it. Why would I need to provide a summary of a game to a player...when they just finished it?

Why are you so focused on AP refuting a case that has not even fully materialized in my head?

Why, if you haven't done a meta dive, do you assume any case would be refutable?

VOTE: Egg

[Titus]

@Texcat, If I wanted you to understand them, I would not put them in code.

[texcat]

I get that. I was just saying that perhaps the cop has been more useful than I realize.

[Titus]

Derp I meant

VOTE: Flubber

@Texcat, I think you should stop wiyh that line of inquiry k?

[ika]

i think text should continue i like the line of question

[AngryPidgeon]

So Im getting light townfeels from a few people, Texcat not really serving me any recently.

Guess I'll call Titus town

[Aneninen]

@ika, kinda figured you were the reinforce bone headed reads type. You can cop me whenever you want. No I am not relishing the reverse of hilariously unbalanced with a cop claim that might be fake. I just cannot resist now the shoe is on the other foot.

Cop me.

If you are town why do you want the cop to investigate you?
It is a useless thing to say cause not only will he waste the night when he could be founding mafia but even confirming you is useless cause everyone will kbow of the confirm too early and nk you anyway.
I honestly can't see a town reason behind that which tbh just reinforces my assumption that you might be sk cause it is kinda too risky as mafia

Actually here you go pisskop.
I quoted myself

I disagree Titus's idea but I don't think it's particularly scummy.
I also don't think Shiro's reaction was scummy.

yknow, if you think I'm the SK I was a good part of all three scum kills, so maybe you should give me til tomorrow to kill the last one too ;p

???

[Aneninen]

Derp I meant

vote: Flubber

Don't you remember Flubber's play from Boonie's game?

So Im getting light townfeels from a few people, Texcat not really serving me any recently.
Guess I'll call Titus town

Details?

________

Why is that Shiro-wagon is so good?

[texcat]

It wasn't meant to be an inquiry.

Those voting Dragon and Shiro, are you voting for scum or for the Sk??

[Aneninen]

Those voting

Dragon

and Shiro, are you voting for scum or for the Sk??

Mafia.

[dragonspawn]

I don't know either way.

[AngryPidgeon]

Details?

Wish I had more :S.

I misread Wake hard and I'm not feeling overly confident about my prior convictions.

Texcat is one of the few posters that just doesn't look -natural- or otherwise uninteresting to me recently.

I thought her last post about wanting to Mafia hunt so we don't "lose too many strong townies in the process" was scummy logic.

Someone else already mentioned that we have more information (Titus?) as a reason to do this and it looks like buddying up to that a little bit. Other people are being more haphazard and proactive, this sentiment is sort of fear-mongering, reactive, and sort of lacking in actual bite for lack of a better way to express it.

Also most people seem to not care too much about whether the person they are hunting is SK or mafia, they are just going for it. But Texcat seems pretty conscious about that.

I can forgive titus and egg for mafia hunting. They didn't posture about it, they just went through and started ISOing people / looking at votes. Which sure, gives mafia more than SK.

Don't hold me to my opinions though plz cause I dont wanna be wrong

[texcat]

I thought her last post about wanting to Mafia hunt so we don't "lose too many strong townies in the process" was scummy logic.

That was not even close to the first time I've expressed that sentiment.

My problem is that I'm still thinking that the SK is either Pisskop or Delta and they have both been playing pretty pro-town. Which makes sense. That's how a SK should play. But I'm not sure I'm ready to vote a pro-town player on the hunch that they're the SK.

and I repeated it in 3420 for Ika.

And "scummy logic" to hunt for scum doesn't make sense to me. You might try to claim that a SK would prefer to hunt for scum, but it's going to be a hard row to hoe to convince anyone that scum would prefer to hunt for scum over the SK.

[A Royal Saint]

@ARS sorry I forget this is your male alt account sometimes.

Why the tunnel so long and hard about Delta? If it's based on votes, why haven't you updated the VCA in the face of two additional scumflips?

I have been updating the VCA as much as I can but Anen's play pretty much points to him being scum and Delta protected him for some reason.
It's just been hard to explain it with limited time. The fact you aren't tunnelling is worrisome like you have a reason to not.

Something is off here.

[Titus]

I don't always tunnel. Tunnelling matches my confidence level. I deal with the conflict and tension to read people, the problem is we don't have buddies protecting each other anymore. The closest thing we have is scum and SK most likely protecting who they think the other is.

Anen and Delta cannot be buddies. 3 group scum have flipped.