Going to address these things I missed before starting on the major day:
In post 1280, Cheetory6 wrote:Bulba wrote:He's not up for discussing things. In fact, his MO so far has been to shut discussion down.
Would you say the manner in which you approached engaging me earlier this cycle isn't similar to what you're scumreading Marquis for here? Why or why not?
No, and I'm hoping I'm understanding your question here, but I'm going to address both interpretations. I originally scumread you based on some reactions early game I didn't like. I'm thinking that may have been a response to a playstyle I didn't like, and not anything scummy. Compared to Marquis, I've played enough with him to know when he's towning it up. He's been playing very subdued this game, and I don't know what to make of that. It's unnerving that he's not playing in a manner that he knows most players would town read him if he's town. The fact that I'm not seeing much in terms of overall content and thought process is making me lean towards scum. If, however, you think I played in the same way earlier as Marquis is now, then I disagree. I've always been up for discussing things, and I've never tried to shut lines of communication down. In fact, one of my many flaws is that I can be goaded into a nonproductive line of discussion and made into a distraction.
He was my strongest town read outside of Tammy up for consideration, and I think he would have used the ability well.
I've looked back over his ISO, and I'm thinking it may have been a knee jerk reaction to his voicing the exact opposite of my reads, and doing so in a forceful manner. At the time (when he called Tammy scum), I thought he was scum trying to sling mud on an obv. town player. His attack on me (which I address later) also felt like it came at an opportune time, when everyone was calling me scum. It felt like an easy position for him to take. The only thing that made me uneasy about the read was that so many of my town reads were townreading him. And now that read is thrown even more in disarray by what Mollie just told me (more on that later).
In post 1280, Cheetory6 wrote:
Also also also, would you be voting to lynch Marquis right now if it was major D1? If not, who would you be voting for?
No. I think Marquis is worth taking some time to make sure in my read. At this point, I think I'd prefer Gamma or Aronis.
I don't want to lynch him. Personally, I still think Zar comes out the worse in the Tammy interaction, and I don't like the way the swap took place. It reads more like the team trying to salvage a scum slot. However, I've seen how several of his reads match mine, and his posts so far haven't been too bad. Also, I think Mollie may be leaning more towards them town, but I'll have to ask her. Ask me again near the end of the day.
In post 1323, vezokpiraka wrote: In post 1278, Bulbazak wrote: In post 1276, Titus wrote:
@Bulba, we need to get on the same page. Stat. I feel as if we are reading two separate games sometimes.
And I've told you repeatedly, I don't like Vezok for a boon choice, and I won't be voting for him. You can't yell at TSO to make his own decisions and then yell at me when I do.
Unboon
Boon TSO
Tammy is still the better choice, but if we can't do that, I'd prefer TSO.
This is bullshit. I've been booning TSO nearly from the start. I said my team wants him to take the boon while everyone was trying to boon me, but you think I'm scum and he's town? You're reads are so fabricated that you could nail them to a wall to board a window.
You know I can town read him and still scum read you, right? That's what I find so offensive about this post. It comes at a convenient time using BS reasoning of "You can't both scum read me and town read someone I'm townreading.", when that is both not only possible, but also quite common. You also ignore my saying multiple times that I don't want to boon someone that I'm not townreading, and that when asked, I said I was confused why so many of my town reads were townreading you, even going so far as to try to find out why. But you so conveniently ignore that, right?
