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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:30 am

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ETL, I'm not sure how alignment-relevant this is, but let me explain what Quilford is going for:

In post 720, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:BB's town.
Patrick being in first position makes me less inclined to think he's scum
, at least not as much as Quilford or Serra.
So if alch were lynched and flipped town
, I'd be looking at those two, with a preference on quil as my team keeps yelling at me about him.

This reads as though IF ALCHEMIST IS TOWN, Patrick is less likely to be scum. Is that what you meant to say?
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:32 am

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UNVOTE:

Quilford, that post does actually make sense. 743 Makes me feel better about you and worse about ETL, especially since now that Quilford is engaging her, she wants to hammer out of frustration. It sounds cowardly.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:34 am

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UNVOTE:

To prevent any frustration-related hammers.

This does not give the Alchemist wagon permission to fall apart. Don't do that.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:35 am

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743 is really Town to me overall too because I don't see scum questioning the player that's about to hammer their top scumread the same way Quilford's doing. They would sit back and let the hammer happen.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:36 am

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In post 752, Quilford wrote:UNVOTE:

To prevent any frustration-related hammers.

This does not give the Alchemist wagon permission to fall apart. Don't do that.


Quilford, who will you think is scum if I get lynched and flip Town?
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:38 am

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In post 750, Mina wrote:ETL, I'm not sure how alignment-relevant this is, but let me explain what Quilford is going for:

In post 720, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:BB's town.
Patrick being in first position makes me less inclined to think he's scum
, at least not as much as Quilford or Serra.
So if alch were lynched and flipped town
, I'd be looking at those two, with a preference on quil as my team keeps yelling at me about him.

This reads as though IF ALCHEMIST IS TOWN, Patrick is less likely to be scum. Is that what you meant to say?

no they are separate. the first by is general reads the. analysis on the wagon
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:39 am

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In post 751, Alchemist21 wrote:UNVOTE:

Quilford, that post does actually make sense. 743 Makes me feel better about you and worse about ETL, especially since now that Quilford is engaging her, she wants to hammer out of frustration. It sounds cowardly.

then vote me! quil will join you and then scum can hammer. it will be glorious and beautiful for me.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:41 am

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ETL I have no plans for voting you right now. What I want is for you to reword #755 so it actually makes grammatical sense and is actually comprehensible. You have shown you are capable of forming complete sentences in #756 so go back and try again in #755. Thanks.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:43 am

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In post 755, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:no they are separate. the first by is general reads the. analysis on the wagon

No. They are separate thoughts. The first bit is general reads, then analysis on the wagon.

Not that fucking hard. I was on a goddamn phone.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:47 am

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How the fuck are they separate thoughts if you connect them by saying 'So if'?

Jesus christ.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:47 am

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Oddly enough, I think ETL is town now.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:48 am

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(Well, at least, lynch BPC over her if it ever gets down to that.)
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:49 am

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In post 759, Quilford wrote:How the fuck are they separate thoughts if you connect them by saying 'So if'?

Jesus christ.

because i dont spend my time wondering how my fucking posts sound! i just fucking post what i think.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:51 am

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FUCK IT

VOTE: Alchemist21

NOTE THAT BPC AND SERRA HAVE LURKED THROUGH ALL THIS
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:53 am

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EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 759, Quilford wrote:How the fuck are they separate thoughts if you connect them by saying 'So if'?

Jesus christ.

because i dont spend my time wondering how my fucking posts sound! i just fucking post what i think.


Yeah? Well it would be nice if you could inject a little bit of clarity so that others can make sense of your thoughts.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:54 am

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like, it's part of a larger post that has connected thoughts, just because i interjected context on my reads before delving into the vca, doesn't mean it's impossible to read or understand and you picking apart semantics is a fucking distraction from the core message and what i was trying to point out.

p-edit: i am being crystal fucking clear.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:55 am

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Quilford, I agree with ETL that this has nothing to do with her alignment anymore.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:57 am

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Mina wrote:Quilford, I agree with ETL that this has nothing to do with her alignment anymore.

I agree with you. But ETL, don't get pissy with me. Mina noticed the ambiguity as well, so you were not being crystal clear. Try not posting things that are potentially contradictory, and I won't get distracted by them.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:59 am

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Right.

I need certainty here before anything else.

VOTE: Alchemist21
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:00 am

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quil what i dont like is you turning your misunderstanding of my posts into a form of scumhunting. if you want to scum read me for a statement i made, or reads you dont agree with, or somthing, you know, actually valid, i could get that. but when you go "hey this doesn't make sense to me, you must be scum" that makes my fucking head explode.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:03 am

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It wasn't misunderstanding of your posts. You contradicted yourself, and now you're complaining about me getting suspicious because you don't think you should have to check your posts to see if they make sense before you post them
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:05 am

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In post 770, Quilford wrote:It wasn't misunderstanding of your posts. You contradicted yourself, and now you're complaining about me getting suspicious because you don't think you should have to check your posts to see if they make sense before you post them

you think i should check my posts before i post them....?

and it WAS your misunderstanding. it was not a contradiction. this is how it looks to me.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:06 am

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Eep.

If Alchemist flips town, I was going to say the team is BPC-serra. Except then I realized that they're literally the entire source of any scumreads on me this game, so that's unlikely. Both scum pushing the same unpopular suspect is weird--they'd want one town to support them first. That makes me feel better about this flip.

ETL has some bad logic and weird reads, but feel this is a Mara situation, and her reaction to Quilford's push looked like townish outrage. But she's by far my weakest town read.

Did like BPC's reaction to my "why didn't you discuss the hammer?", FWIW. But I don't like that he's quiet when shit goes down.

tl;dr: It's probably still serra-Alchemist!
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:09 am

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In post 759, Quilford wrote:How the fuck are they separate thoughts if you connect them by saying 'So if'?

Jesus christ.

In post 771, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 770, Quilford wrote:It wasn't misunderstanding of your posts. You contradicted yourself, and now you're complaining about me getting suspicious because you don't think you should have to check your posts to see if they make sense before you post them

you think i should check my posts before i post them....?

and it WAS your misunderstanding. it was not a contradiction. this is how it looks to me.

It IS a contradiction.

You say they're SEPARATE thoughts, but they're connected with the words "so if", which necessarily mean that ONE IS A CONDITION OF THE OTHER.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:09 am

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I'm a lil busy atm but I'm pretty sure that was a hammer?

Last night, I told you why I was busy, Mina, and it's extremely verifiable by you.

I'm fine with the hammer, I can respond to things tomorrow, I don't think anything I had to say was super pertinent.

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