In post 423, Garmr wrote:I'm going to be honest I'm dreading reading through this game as i am sick and not emotionally involved in it.
In post 426, Ricastle wrote:Do you have anything on the Boon wagon, jbomber, or Skold?
Can you give me an example of a game where Grib played like this as town?
In post 427, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 426, Ricastle wrote:Do you have anything on the Boon wagon, jbomber, or Skold?
Can you give me an example of a game where Grib played like this as town?
The Boon wagon is bullshit. Boon is Boon. Wait till Day 2, if he really is Scum, he'll fall apart and slip soon enough.
I don't know JBomber or Skold, reading them will come much later.
I went through Grib's entire meta, every game. Everything here seems like his normal everyday Town game to me.
In post 424, Ricastle wrote:Righto.In post 420, elusive wrote:Ricastle, I really am going to say that listing all of someone's posts as "scum" is going to real old real fast. Either you explain what makes each post in particular scum or you run the risk of seeming like you're just making stuff up, which now that I looked at them in ISO seems to be the thing. Also once you have a suspect in mind, asking them questions to clarify their points is usually helpful.
15 is highly deflective. Dave calls his opening strange, which no was not an RVS joke as he gave reasoning later, yet Grib responds by fluffing and giving him a random townread; not a serious townread, but the intention to distract is clearly there, used in a diplomatic way.
117 is more pointless deflection. Sure Garmr's point wasn't entirely great, but how is it town to, instead of correct him where he's wrong, try and fluff his post away?
123 - Surely he must have known what I was talking about in 122, yet he attempts to worm out of the conversation again instead of engaging with me as to why I didn't like 117.
150 may seem like a concession but it's more a "What can you say to that?" post. This is true later on as he doesen't act like he's conceded anything. He never ended up addressing my point in 128 later either and seemed to have completely forgotten about it.
154 is complete garbage. First he says he doesn't care about Garmr's pressure on him, which is bizarre - why would he not care about keeping up relations with Garmr before there'd been so much as 8 pages? Second he actually ends up answering Garmr's post, more to my insistence than anything - and he does it completely unbelievably. Instead of doing the understandable and debunking Garmr's points about him, he actually concedes them, saying that's what he does as town, when that's also complete bullshit! Also, if these were really his answers, and he really is 'trying hard to look town', why on earth didn't he care about clearing his name to Garmr? And how does his response to Garmr make any sense in the context that all of Garmr's points were in essence true?
196 - Here he essentially attempts to reason as to why past town meta of him isn't accurate, yet later on uses his scum meta as proof he isn't scum, and before used his town meta as a defence. See the problem here? Defensiveness was not the only point I mentioned in 189 either, however it's the only one he chooses to tackle, which honestly did work to make me question my suspicions of him at the time. Also his reaction to Nero's reasoning on the Boon wagon sounds like what I'd expect from scum - careful moderation designed not to lean one way or the other.
317 - Asking for me to read him correctly while giving no reason to do so. He's yet again fluffposting away instead of reasoning with me.
369 stood out to me the moment I read it. He wagons his townbloc (super safe), and gives no indication he even thinks Skold's scummy (and still hasn't!), just that he likes the people on the wagon. Plus, why the hell is he talking about returning to Kitz when he said earlier that was what was essentially a placeholder vote?
I'll admit, 418 is partially right - I think I probably am too convinced Grib is scum this early in the game. But what can you do?
Yeah, I'd be fine to stop talking about Grib now if you want. I've made my case against him. People can choose to agree with me or to not; I need not do anything else. What else would you want to discuss?
In post 430, PeaceBringer wrote:in my observation a high percentage of these so called cases are flawed and wrong...
In post 431, Skold wrote:In post 430, PeaceBringer wrote:in my observation a high percentage of these so called cases are flawed and wrong...
And I being the genius that I am will have to provide no reasoning to support any argument I bring forth. No. WHY are these cases flawed and wrong?
If that percentage is any less than 100 I'll consider it a success.In post 430, PeaceBringer wrote:in my observation a high percentage of these so called cases are flawed and wrong...
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What's your opinion on 424? And what's 409 all about?In post 431, Skold wrote:And I being the genius that I am will have to provide no reasoning to support any argument I bring forth. No. WHY are these cases flawed and wrong?
it is all good...carry on, do what you do, I will do what I do...In post 434, Ricastle wrote:If that percentage is any less than 100 I'll consider it a success.
In post 443, Skold wrote:What questions? I tend not to notice if they aren't presented as a list.
In post 448, PointYBagelS wrote:Skold I don't know if it's just your writing style, but I'm having a lot of trouble making sense of anything you post.
