In post 1268, Nachomamma8 wrote:and the townblock he's formed (namely the townblock around ABR) is a strong one that no one's actually criticized: it could be because his scumbuddy is playing fucking amazingly, but I seriously seriously doubt that's the case.
Not necessarily. ABR-ZZZX-Me would have formed regardless or not of GreyICE intervention. Whether it would mean that GreyICE is town or scum is a big question, because it's non alignment indicative. I've already mentioned that with the strong townblock that we currently have, scum want to endgame us early OR right now we see GreyICE attempting multiple times to pull power away from ABR and myself, tear down our credibility, rebel.
In post 1268, Nachomamma8 wrote:I also don't understand why you haven't been more aggressive with pushing proper theory if you've quickly identified that it's optimal and strongly feel that it's optimal.
Pushing theory is easy, pushing scum is not.
In post 1268, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't think he's playing in the way he needs to if he's scum. I do think his play this game is good regardless of alignment, but he hasn't
approached it the way he has if he's scum.
Why not? It is a fact that his play is good this game regardless of alignment. How many games have you played with GreyICE? I have never played with ICE, so I don't have the tinted lens of "meta" to mess with my read! I'm scumreading Grey because he has performed actions that are beneficial for a scum mindset!
In post 1268, Nachomamma8 wrote:GreyICE pushes people to see how they react. Are the pushes bullshit? Fuck yeah they are. Do they have obvious town motivation behind them? Yep.
I've already mentioned countless times that I see scum motivation
In post 1268, Nachomamma8 wrote:I feel you're ignoring that and instead picking him apart with points that are factually true but don't actually get into motivation, and you're a good enough player to understand that motivation is king
If greyICE is scum then I can let nacho into the townblock because I don't see them being partners
I like how you admit that Kagami's points against GreyICE are factually true! I love it. Finally someone acknowledges this.
I've already outlined my arguments on why GreyICE is bleeding with subtle scum motivation! Come on nacho! If he doesn't get close to being lynched, and perhaps a partner of him is good enough (who?) to survive, we can't have the merry-in-the-sky white flag scenario with me-abr. Fortunately the townblock is 3 (?) players so actually they need 3 players to survive! Which is hard. Unless we are in a bad place.
In post 1269, Nachomamma8 wrote:Llamarble died in his own game, and he's the best town player on the site. Not giving him the time he needs to do his thing is a really dumb mistake.
Yeah, I was about to raise this point. I saw that. The marble-reinforcements hasn't arrived yet? Pssh.
Good luck at the White Flag!
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In post 1275, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not fucking around, I'm not playing poorly, I'm not getting lynched because I'm playing a bad game as town
.... I wanted to quote this on mobile but it was difficult.
This is exactly what I was thinking mamma nacho ~.~
(PS: If it was ffery in your slot she would be able to salvage this in a heartbeat!
Unfortunately she is busy hauling ass in the large theme!)
In post 1281, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm going down, but I'm going to make sure the scumteam is absolutely fucked when that hammer vote on me.
Okay. So you're going to play Jesus. (seriously ffery would do a better job >_<)
In post 1283, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You have me, sonic, wgeurts and zzzy up there as town to try to flatter us into unvoting you. You have a twisted mind. You will do anything to win. Hopefully the town that remain off your wagon can come out of lurking and place a vote to end your struggle.
It's working! :/
In post 1284, Nachomamma8 wrote:Metal Sonic: Don't be afraid to have a little faith in other people. The missteps you are making are because you're taking too much on your back all on once: you have made strong pushes, you have played well. But your biggest mistake has been shutting people out. Stop shutting people out. If you disagree with the game plan, bring BBMolla into the conversation, tell him Nacho sent you: he's a strong player who is underestimated very very easily because he's inconsistent and distracted by shinies just a *little* too easily. He will understand exactly what I'm doing here.
<3 I love you Nacho
I will ring BBmolla but it appears that he is extremely busy in his own game! If you... noticed?
In post 1284, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm actually pretty proud of my improvements there and am pretty confident I'd steamroll the hell out of you
There is minimal scum motivation for doing so. The only obvious scum motivation is to remain useless.
In post 1291, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mollie reads me by interacting with me. She knows this and has told me as much, I know this as a result. Why then, do you think she would make no effort at all in interacting with me? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Maybe Mollie can replace into the game! I love mollie! But I also love EddieFenix. A lot. Eddie's team got a huge benefit when Who got replaced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would believe the teammate more than the powerful Nacho! Although his ethos is pretty persuasive!
Either way, he plan is for him to confirmed town before taking his words as gospel. I think that it is a gamble and we should actually do that. I cannot live with myself if he got away with that as scum.
That is sad. I actually like you and your "scumhunting principles / maxims". I actually employ them myself. Unfortunately, you appear to be playing as I would if I was scum -- and since you appear to play with a similar school of thought as mine, I'm going to have to conclude that you are scum.
I hope you said that because you were scum! Please retract them in twilight if you indeed are red!
In post 1318, GreyICE wrote:I make a strong effort to post posts that are coherent, logical thoughts.
A+ for effort. Unfortunately, you can contradict yourself in a single post -- incoherent --, while there are numerous logic-gaps in your posts which I can gladly throw a dart at and find -- illogical -- .
I've already posted the short point on mobile. The joke's on you, because I was townreading you at that point in the game, and accidentally destroyed your post -- showing how scummy/illogical/BAD the post was, and being objective about it. I didn't give your post a pretty free pass because I "thought" you were town. The irony was in the fact that my attack was valid! Not so much of that I was wrong for saying that you didn't respond, but more of "You responded, but I destroyed it? Was it that easy?"
In post 1318, GreyICE wrote:I detect one single sign that you clicked post reply and started typing BEFORE YOU FINISHED READING MY POST
I read every post before I reply! If I deliberately didn't, I would mention it explicitly. Whether it is reflected in my response or not is of another issue!
Also, there is a case of me missing details because I'm skimming, but this won't happen in these long posts because I read line by line. But you don't read them
@ ABR
@ ABR
His thought process behind EVERYTHING makes sense. If I were playing normal-sonic mode I would be agreeing with every one of his posts, and in fact our thoughts will be quite similar. I can empathize with Eddie. I can follow his GreyICE scumread and BUILD ON IT. It's organic. And it works.
If you require a case on why he's town with evidence, please ask. I will do everything I can to accommodate.
As a form of guarantee, I would like you to refer to his posts #580 and #602, they are two objectively very townie posts with obvious motivation. I like how he's scumhunting --
he found pertinent evidence against GreyICE scum that many of us overlooked.
THAT. Is scumhunting.
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