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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:03 pm

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kill:Vamirate
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:30 pm

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Alright well first of all UNVOTE:

Will read up and have more to say tomorrow.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:58 pm

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REPLACEMENTS

YESS
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:14 pm

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Is it just me that has problems comprehending elusive's statements on, like, an english level
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:17 pm

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YOU COULD SAY HER STATEMENTS ARE ELUSIVE
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:39 pm

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ba dum tish
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:45 pm

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elusive has a fun way with words
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:44 am

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Vampirate, all eyes are on you.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:26 am

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In post 726, Vampirate wrote:Alright well first of all UNVOTE:

Will read up and have more to say tomorrow.


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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:58 am

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Stalled game is stalled. :(
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:09 am

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In post 731, Rubicon wrote:elusive has a fun way with words


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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:38 am

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Vote Count


Vampirate
(7):
Skold, Errantparabola, Ricastle, Nero Cain, PointYbagelS, PeaceBringer, Garmr

Klingoncelt
(1):
Boonskiies

Skold
(1):
elusive

elusive
(1):
bewilderbeast

Boonskiies
(1):
davesaz

Megalo
(1):
Rubicon

davesaz
(1):
Klingoncelt


Not Voting
(5):
Kitz, Megalo, Creative, Grib, Vampirate


With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2015-04-20 09:00:00)

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Bewilderbeast has not responded to his prod and is being replaced.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:47 am

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In post 736, Shinobi wrote:
Vote Count


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Skold, Errantparabola, Ricastle, Nero Cain, PointYbagelS, PeaceBringer, Garmr



With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2015-04-20 09:00:00)





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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:05 am

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In my last post it was past midnight, right now i'm currently at work and while I have a computer in front of me, work stuff is taking priority atm.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:32 am

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What has your avatar seen to get that messed up?
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:35 am

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Probably the VC
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:28 am

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In post 737, Klingoncelt wrote:
Vampirate, defending yourself would probably be a good idea right now.

I don't really like this

I got the impression that we were just wagoning a slight null-scum read to apply pressure. The one alarm bell that came after that is bomber's complete lack of response and eventual replacement. I fail to see how Vamp could defend against that.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:58 am

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In post 741, Errantparabola wrote:
In post 737, Klingoncelt wrote:
Vampirate, defending yourself would probably be a good idea right now.

I don't really like this

I got the impression that we were just wagoning a slight null-scum read to apply pressure. The one alarm bell that came after that is bomber's complete lack of response and eventual replacement. I fail to see how Vamp could defend against that.



You can't have it both ways. If Town is voting JBomb off, well JBomb's already gone. If Town thinks that the
slot
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:53 pm

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tbf, Vamp can't defend against what jbomb did. All vamp can do is scumhunt (if town) and try to get some town cred for the slot and then MAYBE (just maybe) I'll go back to lynching someone else I want dead.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:59 pm

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I agree.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:11 pm

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In post 308, Ricastle wrote:Ugh. I'm really unconfident in nearly every read I've got so far. I've managed to scrounge together a full set of reads, but they're terrible and I probably won't post them unless someone insists on it.

VOTE: Grib

This is my best scumread for the foreseeable future.
If Grib flips non-mafia, Rubicon & elusive are probably town. If he flips mafia then the opposite.


Kitz, are you leaning towards a more harmless or more negative role with your neutral read? (I assume by neutral you mean third party rather than null)

Elusive: Thing is, how can you be sure everyone in a townbloc
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town on Day 1? Obviously, if it was likely that was the case, I'd have no problems. I just can't see it in Grib though. Who's your top scumread?

Chainsawing is defending a player by attacking their attacker.


The bolded caught my eye here as it feels Ricastle is/was trying to manipulate future events. If Grib turned out to be non-mafia, Ricastle could later on say "well then the other 2 are probably town" hiding a mafia in them.

If Grib turned out to be mafia, then there's at least 1 easy mislynches after' and of course Ricastle gets the credit.

I honestly highly doubt the mafia would stack up 3 of themselves together like that.

So VOTE: Ricastle

Anyways this is what I have so far as little as it is.


As for JBomber732, the only real defense I have against everyone voting me now is that the JBomb is an easy lynch target. He stands out way too much in his questionable logic. I'd think he'd be more careful on his words if he's scum. (of course i'm the only one who knows for the very truth so whatever) I'm basically saying i'm the easy mislynch.


I gotta say though, I find my current predicament totally hilarious. If you want go read my past history (there's not much) go ahead.
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:41 pm

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Yo I agree with the part where 3 mafs arent stacked in that group, but to keep it real I townread elu and rubi anyway, and if grib flips town then the those three are probably set... their own meta they claim to know pretty well
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:54 pm

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In that post I was going under the logic that elusive & Rubicon (who know Grib's game extremely well) wouldn't both misread Grib and put him in a townbloc if he was mafia. I don't think all three would need to be mafia in that situation however.

Moreover, I was then fixated on the idea of Grib!SK and have been townreading the former two for almost the entire game, which was why I said that as it matched up with my exact reads at the time.

What do you think about the townbloc?
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:36 pm

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Man, sucks so bad to be posting so little, it's more because i lack of content on this game, for some reason, i think all the players here are very careful when posting, i don´t read anything that is particulary scummy or associative, besides the town block, wich is a thing that is hard for me to comment as i never played with anyone here, so i'm sheeping on that for now. I still don´t like
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:37 am

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In post 748, Creative wrote: I still don´t like
Davesaz
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What don't you like about the truth?

Where I stand is I don't have a lot of strong reads. The difference between scum and town in that respect is that scum will try to evade this point where town have nothing to lose by saying it.
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