In post 869, JohnnyFarrar wrote:BB's deafness to those who disagree with him is annoying. Forget what I said about Espy sucking in lylo, BB would ruin lylo for town. His stance that my slot is scum regardless of Alch lynch given between pages 24 and 25 combined with his "I'm not voting anyone but Alch today" stance reeks to me of setting up future lynches, which I don't like.
I can either be confident or unconfident. That's how I work.
Yesterday I was confident and wrong.
Today I'm just unconfident.
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I'm sorry, I've had some difficult personal stuff come up. I really wanna be in this still and I should hopefully be sorted nowish. I'm really sorry again I feel like a dick, mostly to my team.
If I haven't been able to get back up again in the next day or so I'll probably replace out, but I'd rather not.
Now it's less a question than a comment--my question would have been "where are all the town reads in your catch-up?" But I wanted to see what you'd come up with when you weren't tailoring your posts toward appeasing me. Apparently, your one town read is Quilford. Can you restate why?
I liked serra's replace-out, actually, and frankly wish your contributions blinded me with towniness given you make some decent observations and you're one of the only people playing the game. But I feel as though your catch-up overall was scum-motivated. The vast majority of your observations were:
1) pointing out small reasons of varying quality to call people scummy.
2) complaining about how the one person we've already lynched, Alchemist21, was apparently more town than every single other player in the game except for Quilford. (I've always thought the "chastising players for the lynch" scumtell was overrated, but you're so attuned to every piece of blinding innocence from our top suspect D1, and yet can't see similar signs coming from most living players?)
Most people's reads tend to be more holistic and evolving, as opposed to "here are a bunch of posts justifying why I could vote out 2/3 of the game." (You say, "I could vote this person just so they wouldn't be in LYLO" or "I could be persuaded to vote this person" multiple times as reactions to single posts.) The closest thing to a big-picture read is Patrick, but he's not in your lynchpool not because he's town, but because he hasn't "done anything scummy."
And with all these reasons, your vote is on someone essentially for lurking?
And I almost regret posting this, because it's giving people a case to latch onto instead of doing any of their own scumhunting.
Thaaaat's a hard question to answer. I would probably sa logical because my gut is wrong more often than not, though I've been known to be bad at ignoring it.
As to your tonal argument, it makes a bit of sense, but I entered this game knowing my slot was in trouble and my lynch would mean lylo, and on top of that I saw everyone screaming things like "my scumreads are PoE" and such, so that may have something to do with me nitpicking everyone to death.
Alch is pretty easy to defend in hindsight, but I genuinely have no idea how that whole day went by without anyone even coming close to a counter wagon.
My town -> Scum order:
Quil
Patrick
Mina
BB
Esp
BPC
My problem with BPC is lurking in a sense but it's more for the opportunistic time he lurked toward the end of the last day phase. Showing up and being all "yeah I'm down for a Alch lynch" and then taking no initiative beyond that looks like "I'm here but want no accountability" to me.
My townread of Quil is probably bigger than I even originally stated. What I said was something along the lines of "Mina has convinced me that Quil is town," but the more I think about it the less scum Quil makes sense. I don't particularly see scum going so hard at a newb townie day one, when he cracks it looks like genuine anger, and that semantic argument with Espy day one looked like quality "scum wouldn't keep this going" work.
Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
"In my heart, Johnny will always be scum" - Not_Mafia
In post 891, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Johnny are you saying you see a scum team of me/bpc? that makes sense to you...?
I don't do associative reads until I have a reason to. Trying to find teams is something that's turns me into a drooling idiot.
yah k but if you see us as scummy independently, wouldn't it stand to reason that you are wrong about one of them? so my question to you is more about what you will do with my flip (or bpc's)? if you are wrong, where will you look? are you simply running a ranked list for poe? or do you have some logical reasons for the order you put those reads in? ie are they all the same strength or are there tiers?
