NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

[House]

With all these townreads I'm getting I'm seriously worried for my safety tonight.

Creative, Rubicon, Nero, Grib, are any of you up for a jbomber wagon?

You're perfectly safe if your townreads includes scum, ya know.

[Ricastle]

Those weren't my townreads. They were everyone who I'd noticed had either scumread or commented negatively on jbomber before that hadn't already taken a stance on wagoning him. But indeed, half of them were in fact townreads, and another was a townlean.

[House]

Far as I see it, if Garmr

were

scum, I think he'd be more concerned with claiming anything before replacing out due to the circumstances at the time (being pressured by like 3 people). He saw what happened to jbomber on just the previous page, so I'd expect he try to keep himself from sharing the same fate.

On one hand yes, claiming VT boxes in his successor, but on the other, there's nothing else safe to claim for scum at this point. I think the whole thing's null overall.

Wrong.

The fact it weakens the potential position of scum to make a VT claim by definition means it cannot be null because he said nothing that would weaken a town member's position to offset that hit that scum!Garmr would be taking.

His replace out post was leantown, and idk how you can possibly view it as null.

[House]

Those weren't my townreads. They were everyone who I'd noticed had either scumread or commented negatively on jbomber before that hadn't already taken a stance on wagoning him. But indeed, half of them were in fact townreads, and another was a townlean.

I was responding to your first sentence. Not the second one.

[House]

well we reach the point of mass day one replacing... :sigh:

Way to breed apathy.

[House]

Yes, that's the plan, unless you're implying you have a better one.

So your plan is to do...nothing, then? Almost anything is better than that.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Klingoncelt

Hi there. I don't believe I have a read on you. Also I find it incredibly unlikely that you went through every single one of my games.

I'm V/LA so I haven't posted much. I'll be back tomorrow (Monday) night hopefully.

I most certainly did go through every single one of your games.

It's a very time-consuming process, but worthwhile. It's not exactly meta so much as mentality that I'm looking at. Some players can easily change their meta, but there's always something that pushes their buttons or causes them to relax as either Town or Scum. That's what I look for. Very subtle but carved in stone psychology tells. (There are a few players that are totally null, I just can't get a read on them, Aneninem, ZZZX, Dragonspawn...)

I question your method because you have a history of reading me wrong and I'm not hard to figure out once you get to know me.

But you... you still don't get me.

So much for mentality.

[House]

This game is weird with the amount of replacements. Will there even be enough replacements?

Jbomber732 is being replaced.

Garmr is being replaced.

Megalo has failed to respond to his prod and is being replaced.

Bewilderbeast is being prodded. If he fails to respond adequately to this prod, he will be replaced.

Some players can easily change their meta, but there's always something that pushes their buttons or causes them to relax as either Town or Scum. That's what I look for. Very subtle but carved in stone psychology tells.

So, psychologic meta to justify any meta? What would be a case of "causes them to relax"?

More apathy farming.

Not liking this.

[Ricastle]

Wrong.

The fact it weakens the potential position of scum to make a VT claim by definition means it cannot be null because he said nothing that would weaken a town member's position to offset that hit that scum!Garmr would be taking.

His replace out post was leantown, and idk how you can possibly view it as null.

It's null because it would be unreasonable to lean either town or scum over that statement. I explained in that very post why he might do that as scum.

I was responding to your first sentence. Not the second one.

Oh, okay. I assumed you were responding to both.

[House]

Oh, and the case is as good as any that I've seen in this game so far. I think the slot is Scum.

However, I'm not voting for it until some time after the replacement checks in.

Since when are you cautious as town?

You're usually banging the drum when you have a scum read.

[House]

Wrong.

The fact it weakens the potential position of scum to make a VT claim by definition means it cannot be null because he said nothing that would weaken a town member's position to offset that hit that scum!Garmr would be taking.

His replace out post was leantown, and idk how you can possibly view it as null.

It's null because it would be unreasonable to lean either town or scum over that statement. I explained in that very post why he might do that as scum.

It doesn't change the fact that he'd be crippling his replacement and effectively playing against his win con by fakeclaiming VT.

[Ricastle]

Which was what I challenged in 643. :l

[House]

Vampirate replaces jbomber732.

Ah. So.

Get the fuck off Vampirate. I've decided that he's town.

Scum aren't the only ones worried about their survival. I have reason to believe that we should not be lynching that slot toDay.

[House]

Vote Count

Vampirate

(7):

Skold, Errantparabola, Ricastle, Nero Cain, PointYbagelS, PeaceBringer, Garmr

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-04-20 09:00:00)

Vampirate, defending yourself would probably be a good idea right now.

This kind of shit is terribad. Let the dude get caught up before you go all Cujo on his ass.

[House]

What has your avatar seen to get that messed up?

Probably the VC

I loled.

[House]

I am a Serial Killer. People should wagon me.

jk, but for real I'm antsy as hell right now

VOTE: Grib

If you say you're a serial killer, who am I to gainsay you?

[House]

Yay, replacements!

Dave's recommended reading:
Look at JBomb slot's awkward moment, saying he didn't want to do something that would get him into trouble.

Some of the reaction to that may be town but I strongly suspect some scum push on it, because it's the kind of mistake that scum can pursue for free. This carries even if the slot ultimately flips scum, because scum on that wagon would still be in prime bussing position.

Scum bussing on d1?

You'd have to do better to sell me on that.

Besides, Vampirate isn't scum and the wagon on him is

horrible

.

[House]

also I don't really want to lynch vampirate now that he's doing stuff

Who do you want to lynch then? We only have 3 rl days left.

What are these Things you want to Do, Grib?

His night action, obviously.

[House]

Hi House!

Hello Vonster.

hi scum.

G'head and wagon me. I'll be just as impressed as Boonskiies was.

Why? Does Xay have a better role than you do?

That's a matter of perspective, innit?

[House]

Not Gonna Lynch

:
House
elusive
Grib
Ricastle
Nero Cain
Errantparabola
Vampirate
Rubicon (following the reads of my townreads on this one)

Meh

:
PointYBagelS
Boonskiies
Bellaphant
Kitz
Xayzeck
davesaz
Creative

Let's Lynch These People

:
Skold
Klingoncelt
PeaceBringer

[House]

Now that I'm done trolling Grib, let's kill some scum.

VOTE: PeaceBringer

[Ricastle]

Why is Peace scum?

[PeaceBringer]

the "town block" certainly has generated interesting reactions...

I actually disagree & view the whole town block thing this early in the game as a distraction.

Even though they are familiar with each other, it IS d1 and reads can't possibly be evolved enough within the first few pages to be comfortable with a town block the way this one just formed out of thin air.

That you'd say the posts garbling on about it makes for interesting reactions raises red flags.

my point was that it has created a lot of discussion for something so innane and lots of folks have said something about it one way or another... I don't know quite what to make of all that yet, but they are noteworthy reactions... as were reactions to your boon push

[PeaceBringer]

Now that I'm done trolling Grib, let's kill some scum.

VOTE: PeaceBringer

welcome to the game, hi to you to, let me know when you have warmed up and started moving beyond sticking toe in water, cause that vote was not getting serious, like you pretend it is...

[PeaceBringer]

of course House if you are scum, carry on...

[House]

Why is Peace scum?

799 & 804 as of the time you asked me, which is a hell of a lot more than people are using to wagon one of the worst possible choices for a d1 lynch.

Also, 823 smacks of intimidation tactics. Why would town need to do that?