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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:40 am

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4 to lynch.

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:55 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:Tarhalindur Note: I'm still here, with a little more access than I've had for the last week or so. Unfortunately, I've fallen a bit behind in this game. I'll try to reread and get my thoughts on the game and my reply to Aimee in in the next couple of days.

A quick glance at the thread tells me that ryan is attacking Fernando. I don't like this; as I noted before I got hit with limited access, I spotted something in one of Fernando's posts that makes me 90% sure he's pro-town.
FoS: ryan


Unfortunately, I've just got word that I'm going to be on vacation from August 4-12. I'm 90% sure that I'll have no Internet access at that time.
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Why shouldn't I attack FeRnAnDo, he's making excuses for why he can't post a player analysis and you think that's legit? Than he posts a "I'm still here don't worry" post and still doesn't post analysis. EB was already MIA this entire game (and has been replaced) post your analysis and quit waiting for others to lead you.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:46 am

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Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.

Tarhalindur: Where's the 90& sure bit?
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:47 am

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To clarify, I am NOT role fishing. I am asking this because I just did a brief summary of ryan in post 100, and I didn't come up with anything.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:49 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:
Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.


Tarhalindur: Where's the 90& sure bit?
That's why I can't understand FeRnAnDo's excuse for not posting
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:47 am

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Aimee: What you do you think about FeRnAnDo?
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:58 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.
I unequivocally disagree with this.
ryan wrote:Aimee: What you do you think about FeRnAnDo?
I'm thinking innocent right now.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:59 am

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Gaining information is bad? How so Aimee?
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:02 am

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No, but I think I may have spotted what Tar spotted. Not sure though. That's what I meant anyway.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:04 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.

Tarhalindur: Where's the 90& sure bit?
I will not elaborate at this time.
User out of ambit.

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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:17 am

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Aimee wrote:No, but I think I may have spotted what Tar spotted. Not sure though. That's what I meant anyway.
Ok.........huh?
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:45 pm

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I would like to apologize for my absence lately. Unfortunately my life has been too busy lately, and I am now going on a LOA.
For this reason I have sent a PM to the mod resigning from the game, so that somebody else who has more time to commit may join.

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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:20 pm

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Well I guess we wait for a replacement than
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:26 pm

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Aimee wrote:
spectrumvoid wrote:Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.
I unequivocally disagree with this.
Depends on what kind of information is involved. Tarhalindur seems to be very much confident of FeRnAnDo's innocence, but he isn't prepared to give a reason. This suggests a roletell (which isn't necessarily reliable). Full-town analysis would aid us in this situation... so in that sense, sharing can be a good idea.

At the moment, I have to agree with Aimee. If FeRnAnDo ever comes close to lynch, pointing out his "90% protown" post might become a viable option... but for now, sharing information helps scum far more than townies.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:36 am

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Albert B. Rampage replaces Barmacral.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:36 am

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You could also say that Tarhalindur is scum and that is why he knows FeRnAnDo is innocent
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:50 am

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I'm glad to be a part of this game with all you happy people. First off,
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:29 am

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I'm going to post the players from the most suspicious to the least:

Mokina
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Aimee wrote:However, the fact he seems to take two sides to every player is quite concerning - seemingly like he didn't want to step on any toes. I am particularly concerned by the lack of opinion given on ryan, for some reason. I also could see this post being an opportunity to lurk by not really saying much - let's face it, EB was basically saying what had been said up to this point (although it isn't damning evidence against him).

He seems to be happy voting for lurkers "if they don't elicit some good responses," whatever that means. I am interpreting it to mean they aren't saying much. If so, I would expect EB to be voting for Barmacral, who has effectively done this. Let's see...

He comes back at Tar's request, posting his top two targets. I am impressed he didn't pick Barma, and that he picked Tar. Note he picks a lurker and an aggressive players. Really non-committal here.
Regarding his earlier play, I agree with Aimee, and would call his behavior suspicious because he contradicted himself by not voting for Barmacral; didn't even place him as his top 2 suspects.

After replacing the bystander, Mokina hasn't done anything noteworthy: a hello post, a short suspicions list, a post on Barmacral and weighing in on SV's and Aimee's interaction. I disagree very much on this last one, and I'm going to get to that in Tar's analysis.

ryan
: I agree with some, if not most of his posts, but this strikes me as invariably stupid:
ryan wrote:You could also say that Tarhalindur is scum and that is why he knows FeRnAnDo is innocent
This is a massive overstatement and exaggeration of the situation. Too opportunistic if you ask me, maybe scum trying to recover from losing a potential suspect for the town.

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Tarhalindur wrote:A quick glance at the thread tells me that ryan is attacking Fernando. I don't like this; as I noted before I got hit with limited access, I spotted something in one of Fernando's posts that makes me 90% sure he's pro-town. FoS: ryan

Unfortunately, I've just got word that I'm going to be on vacation from August 4-12. I'm 90% sure that I'll have no Internet access at that time. Mod, if that's going to be a problem then you should probably start looking for a (temporary?) replacement.
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Tar wrote:I will not elaborate at this time.


concerns me a lot. If he doesn't answer this, I am going to put a vote on him. If we can reduce to odds of a mislynch, that's what we should do. I think either

1) His information will be irrelevant, and we could all point and laugh at him at that time.

2) His information relates to a power role, to which point we can accuse him of role-fishing.

3) What he knows will help us strike out a player from our suspect list, or at least partially confirm him as town.

The last is of course the best case scenario, and what it is most likely to be. I don't think Tar would just drop a line like that mistakenly, or mention that he thinks someone is a power role; that's why he should tell us why he thinks Fernando is town. His FoS at ryan won't make much sense until he explains to us why he thinks Fernando is town.

...I got to leave now, so I'll post the rest another time, but I feel Aimee and SV are pretty much pro-town at this point.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:52 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
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ryan wrote:You could also say that Tarhalindur is scum and that is why he knows FeRnAnDo is innocent
This is a massive overstatement and exaggeration of the situation. Too opportunistic if you ask me, maybe scum trying to recover from losing a potential suspect for the town.
As early as we are in this game for somebody to say they are 90% sure somebody else is town is a heck of a stretch (even you have to admit that) that is why I posted what I said. I'm a little confused how I made #2 on your most suspicious list when you said you agreed with most if not all of my posts, care to clarify?
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:58 am

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Your comment put me off a lot. He said he has a
reason
to think Fernando is 90% town. We can't accuse him of being scumbuddies with fernando until we have heard why he thinks so. You seemed like you were trying to discredit an argument before it was even made, and I found that scummy.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:12 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:I spotted something in one of Fernando's posts that makes me 90% sure he's pro-town.
There is the exact quote. For some reason a few players (Tarha, Fernando and Aimee) seem to have information that they aren't willing to share or at least reasons they feel somebody is town that they aren't willing to share, that isn't very pro town if you ask me and the argument that it will help the scum isn't an argument, the scum know who they are, as long as we aren't giving out roles, I find no reason to not give reasons why somebody is town. We seem to have no problem fingering people for scum, so why not why people are town? One if not two of those three are scum.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:16 am

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Sure, and you are perfectly correct, except pointing him out as scum before he gives his reasons, or explains in a satisfactory manner why he can't give out reasons is scummy in itself.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:20 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:
spectrumvoid wrote:Sharing things in mafia is a good idea.

Tarhalindur: Where's the 90& sure bit?
I will not elaborate at this time.
He had a chance to explain why Fernando was town and chose to do this post instead. Actually upon a little review of the game I do have a little more suspicion toward Tarhalindur than I did before, something about Aimee isn't sitting right with me right now.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:27 am

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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:28 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:If we're going to do nonsensical things in an attempt to get the game moving, we should really make it something mafia-related (like, say, random bandwagoning and lurker hunting). Talking about futbol most assuredly does not help the town find mafia - indeed, such non-game-related discussion actually distracts the town from actually finding mafia.

The correllary here is that talking about a subject unrelated to the game is very good for the scum, since by distracting the townthe scum make it less likely that the town will find and lynch them.
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