Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

BBmolla · Post Post #950 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:35 pm

I'm honestly pretty okay with either a BPC/Johnny lynch

The Johnny read is a lot because I dislike his read on me because it reads as "Look at all this stuff that indicates this player is a bad player, so he must be scum"

I actually might lean BPC a bit more, because BPC seems kind of robotic.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #951 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:09 pm

Example of when I called your bad play scummy?

BBmolla · Post Post #952 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:36 pm

In post 920, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 916, Mina wrote:7) JF, read on BBmolla. Explanation for why it's not a town read on BBmolla. Go!

My read is "This man ain't said anything useful, and now that he was so wrong on day one everyone's ok with him barely posting anything on day 2 because he's sad or something." I've seen nothing even close to content come from him (much less anything townie), and unlike Patrick he doesn't even seem to be playing to win.

Why is he town?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #953 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:50 pm

Did I say that was scummy at any point during that? Or are you one if those people who thinks null tells don't exist?

BBmolla · Post Post #954 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:16 pm

I don't find it fathomable that anyone can have a null read on me at this point

like wtf

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #955 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:19 pm

Well start contributing and I'll start reading you like a grown up

BBmolla · Post Post #956 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:23 pm

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #957 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:36 pm

"I post a lot which means I contribute a lot. There's no way that someone could be conflicted between thinking I'm scum who faked being super confident on a shitty town wagon and using that as an excuse to stop posting when he flipped townie and thinking I'm just town who's clearly either too busy or too bad to be playing this game." - BBmolla 2015

Quilford · Post Post #958 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:48 pm

Johnny for town imo

BBmolla · Post Post #959 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:50 pm

is being an ass hole a town tell for him or something

BBmolla · Post Post #960 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:51 pm

Johnny with the end of yesterday I still find it hard to believe you read my posts and thought "I HAVE NO HINT OR INDICATION OF HIM BEING TOWN OR SCUM AT ALL"

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #961 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:55 pm

In post 959, BBmolla wrote:is being an ass hole a town tell for him or something

Aaaaaand sig'd

BBmolla wrote:Johnny with the end of yesterday I still find it hard to believe you read my posts and thought "I HAVE NO HINT OR INDICATION OF HIM BEING TOWN OR SCUM AT ALL"

Is conflicting reads hard to understand? Are you always super confident about everything? Because bullshit.

Mina · Post Post #962 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:31 am

In post 958, Quilford wrote:Johnny for town imo

I know nothing whatsoever about Johnny's normal play, but this doesn't look like a particularly town form of aggression. Especially since his tone is very slick at points.

Quilford · Post Post #963 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:44 am

Really? I liked #953.

Quilford · Post Post #964 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:45 am

Omg you guys SleepyKrew is reading through this game

zoraster · Post Post #965 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:26 am

Day 2

BipolarChemist ( 2 )

JohnnyFarrar

Quilford

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(L - 2 )

JohnnyFarrar ( 2 )

EspeciallyTheLies

BBMolla

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No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 3 )

Patrick BipolarChemist Mina

Total Votes ( 7 )

Needed to Lynch [ 4 ]

Deadline: April 26th at 20:00 EDT
(expired on 2015-04-26 20:00:00)

BPC has been prodded

BBmolla · Post Post #966 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:18 am

In post 961, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Is conflicting reads hard to understand? Are you always super confident about everything? Because bullshit.

I definitely have more null reads as scum.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #967 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:29 am

In post 952, BBmolla wrote:
In post 920, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 916, Mina wrote:7) JF, read on BBmolla. Explanation for why it's not a town read on BBmolla. Go!

My read is "This man ain't said anything useful, and now that he was so wrong on day one everyone's ok with him barely posting anything on day 2 because he's sad or something." I've seen nothing even close to content come from him (much less anything townie), and unlike Patrick he doesn't even seem to be playing to win.

Why is he town?

that last sentence looks more to me like, "this is why he's scum". if you were indicating a null read, why go with this phrasing? "why is he town?" suggests that you think he's NOT town, and if you're NOT town, you are mafia.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #968 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:30 am

so is bb town or scum, johnny boy?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #969 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:41 am

That's a false dichotomy if I've ever seen one. I've already said that I came into this game looking to pick holes in people, and BB getting town reads left and right is fucking baffling. I don't know what his alignment is because he hasn't done anything in this game to really tell me what his alignment is. The things I know are:

1. He's put forth more emotion than content
2. If he's town he's bad at it
3. If he's scum he's winning

See my problem with the slot? It's not a scumread, but it's definitely not a townread. So how 'bout this, anyone who has any read on him whatsoever, tell me what and why, and until then I'll just be stating lovingly into his eyes waiting for him to actually do something.

Patrick · Post Post #970 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:13 am

Patrick wrote:I think bbmollas mood swings and emotions in this game feel incredibly genuine. I'm explaining this because a bunch of people have him as a question mark. I think if he managed to fake his stress in real time at the end of day 1 I'll nominate him for some kind of oscar, and his tone today feels exactly like a townie who got it wrong after thinking he was incredibly right. His reaching out to Mina/Quilford/me in different posts looks genuine rather than scum buddying up to town.

This has been my view since the end of day 1. Not all emotion indicates town, but I would expect scum to have been laughing gleefully about Mara's play at that point, so if he looks genuinely pissed off that suggests to me he's town.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #971 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:13 am

a false dichotomy? i dunno about you but when i run mafia games, there's mafia, and there's town. There's no alignment called "null".

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #972 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:15 am

In post 969, JohnnyFarrar wrote:he hasn't done anything in this game

oh yeah i guess you're right. i mean, you know, except for the perfectly executed fake hammer.

sure scum can do it. but on town?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #973 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:17 am

In post 969, JohnnyFarrar wrote:1. He's put forth more emotion than content

What does this mean to you?

2. If he's town he's bad at it

Okay.... so?

3. If he's scum he's winning

Does this mean he

looks

town to you? Or that you don't like the fact that he is being townread? Because what that tells me is that you feel threatened by these townreads. And if you are scum, townreads on town ARE a threat to you and you would justified, so if he's indeed town, kinda makes you more likely to be scum.

See my problem with the slot? It's not a scumread, but it's definitely not a townread.

Honestly I'm not buying this BS.

Patrick · Post Post #974 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:26 am

I don't think Johnny's bbmolla stance is that hard to follow tbh.

Is there a reason he's getting flak for it and Quilford isn't? They don't seem much different to me.