Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Stop acting town, ETL. The game is broken if you're town.

I'm sorry, what...?

[Mina]

I mean, you have to be scum with one of JF/BPC, silly! And the other is the scum mislynch bait. Didn't you get the message? This means there's order in the world, and it's not a darkhorse Quilford/Patrick team. Please don't do things to conflict with that narrative, kay? It's bad for my sanity.

[Mina]

Nothing much changed since I last said it, so yes. I think there are a few oddities in some cases (like the serra BPC both attacking you thing you brought up on day 1), but nothing that strongly speaks against any of those teams.

More that ETL has got into a fight with JF, JF has

sort of

got into a fight with BPC (he's distancing hard if they're scum--yes, it's POSSIBLE, but it's just very easy, just as D1 was very eadsy), and I seriously, unironically think BPC randomly putting ETL as his strongest town read (while scummy as well)

Random moment of paranoia time: why did your town read on me start getting stronger right when I stopped posting? Shouldn't this be when you'd be getting LESS sure of the {JF-BPC-ETL} PoE pool rather than more so?

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...okay, I don't think I've done this yet this game, so since it's a tradition:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[Mina]

EBWOP: I seriously, unironically think BPC randomly putting ETL as his strongest town read (while scummy as hell) is not something he'd do to his actual buddy (this may sound like ridiculous logic, but this tell has worked for me a lot in the past).

[Mina]

What do people think of the odds that Alchemist was an all-town wagon? I was thinking it's possible because of how the game just

died

when he hit L-1, since no one had any motivation to either leave his wagon or push elsewhere (but I guess WIFOM and the scum would be happy parking their vote there as well and keeping momentum on him).

[Mina]

Thanks for not responding to the post where I call you town and fitting more neatly into the narrative, ETL. <3

[Quilford]

like forcing me to reinforce a read beyond what it is and then acting like having a read in that manner after doing so is some kind of tell is really something else.

I don't care. The fact that BBmolla's scumhunting isn't factoring into your read is really fucking weird.

[BBmolla]

What do you guys want to know about me

My scum hunting today has been trash. My show just opene but more so I can't read the people in this game for shit.

[BBmolla]

Ask me shit.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gimme some reads with reasons attached

[BBmolla]

patrick, town, gut
mina, town, gut
quilford, town, gut
ETL, town?, gut
BPC, scum?, gut
you, scum unless meta suggests you appease more as scum

[BBmolla]

My biggest fear is my Quil read

[BBmolla]

Actually my biggest fear is a Quil/ETL team

[BipolarChemist]

Sorry about play today. I've had some other shit going on and I'm reaching a point where I'll be replacing out. (Most of my stuff today has been lazy as shit reads/not caring too much)

I'm sorry

[Quilford]

;-; bee pee sea

[Mina]

Yeah, I still think Molla is very likely town after looking at his ISO again. Just his entire reaction to the Mara claim, his conviction in Alchemist's guilt near the end...However:

Pretty confident I'm not changing my vote ever

This was stated really early in the game, based on that one RVS post that I think is more

likely

to come from scum, but is far from 100% damning evidence--town make fluffy filler posts in RVS all the time. Um...can you explain your conviction in this? It feels overblown.

If anyone has Alch meta it couldn't hurt though

Did you ever look at the Alch meta Patrick provided?

Because depending on whether I'm wrong or right means very different people are scum

Which very different people are scum? I don't see evidence of your reads changing today.

Lastly, why do you not seem to be questioning your town read on me very seriously? I'd have expected some paranoia after

Marketplace

. And why didn't you answer me the first time I asked this question?

[Mina]

Also, molla, have your teammates been weighing in on this game at all?

[Mina]

^uh, I mean, before MS/shos saying Quilford is scum.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Thanks for not responding to the post where I call you town and fitting more neatly into the narrative, ETL. <3

you are welcome. but you should thank the dirty bastard beers I drank at my birthday dinner. I got a telescope and some jewelry and nail polish and chocolate XD

[EspeciallyTheLies]

in any case town reads are worthless especially coming from you who has waffled on people all game.

[Mina]

You mean like how I've actually

have

three pretty consistent strong town reads all game, while you've pretty much gone and called anyone you've townread scum at some point or other because your reads are completely inconsistent?

[Mina]

I waffle on you whenever you say something that sounds genuine only because there's so much about your play and your reads that looks scummy as fuck.

[Mina]

(Um, but on an unrelated note, I hope you had a nice birthday! And on another unrelated note, I wish I was allowed to edit my posts, because the word repetition drives me crazy.)

I opened Marketplace Mafia III, and looking for Quilford's posts in the uʍop ǝpısdn hydra ISO (409 posts, the vast majority of which are N one-liners) is like finding a needle in a haystack. But luckily, there's a period of time where N is V/LA and Quilford is locked out of the hydra.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Conveniently, he spends most of his time tunneling BBmolla. I probably underestimated Quil's ability to fake a tunnel as scum (he talks about revelatory moments as well). But he still doesn't do genuine scumhunting. His BBmolla case is much shallower and less nuanced there, and I'd felt like his posts made him look so obviously scum during that exchange I couldn't get away with not bussing him.

[Quilford]

But luckily, there's a period of time where N is V/LA and Quilford is locked out of the hydra.

Noooooooooo don't remind meeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Quilford]

Omg you linked it! MINAAAAA