Sonic attempts to crack the game
*all information from my team PT is paraphrased to the best of my ability to avoid mod infractions
Okay guys so I promised yesterday that I was going to post my thoughts and my team's thoughts and then figure out scum from there.
Here's a quick overview of our reads on Tuesday 21 April. A good timezone checkmark is my "Catching up from page 127" post.
: Ooba and Zar
shos
: ZZZX and wgeurts
: GreyIce and wgeurts
Maybe I should explain why I am no longer reading ZZZX as conftown first.
I saw wgeurts vs ZZZX in pages 134 - 137 and wow! ZZZX comes off from that very very very town to me. So I post in my team PT "ZZZX is 200% town and I am not lynching him ever".
Then shos comes in and tells me that ZZZX is extremely scum.
So I didn't believe him as if he was crazy.
Then Alchemist delivers Titus
pizza
VCA and I looked at it because I value Titus's words
a lot
and ABR was town without reasonable doubt. So ZZZX was at 2nd last place! He discredited Titus's VCA in 141 which I did not like on many levels. Like mollie was just another "sore loser" of the Uncouth but ZZZX just said "[Titus] VCA is pointless" which is not a smart thing in a 0 PRs, open setup with 100% death-by-lynches. But I kept quiet because that is not necessarily a scummy thing.
But the next day less than 24 hours, GreyICE suddenly 1v1 ZZZX and we all saw it. So
3706 and there was conversation in my team thread.
#3781 - #3787 came at the wrong time, with the wrong tone, and with some nasty reactions after my poke.
Shos wanted to remind me of
In post 2763, ZZZX wrote:also your posting pattern is frankly the same ine very sonic game. if i listen to you any more i will get affected by emotions . I will follow nacho's plan and if grey doesnt flip scum you might die.
"If grey flips town I might die"
which does not make sense because Grey is supposed to choose his venge if he is town. This sounds very similar to wgeurts "lets flip Grey then flip MS hooray!" except less obnoxious but subtle is the danger here.
Also, he was putting mollie in the lynchability pool which is ridiculous because Nacho specifically said that "Mollie is my top town read" so. mollie can deal with that issue herself.
Anyway I am still townreading ZZZX but I am not going to take shit from him like I would have earlier. If you are going to scumread me for that then bring it on.
Here is the bottomline:
GreyICE says ZX is scum, I may not trust him
Alchemist says ZX is scum, I may not trust him
but my CONFTOWN TEAMMATE says ZX is scum, I am going to trust him.
Shos's thoughts on the game:
-> Lynchability pool {ZZZX, GreyICE, wgeurts, mollie*}
-> Strongly doubts that there was only one scum involved in the Nacho mislynch
-> *mollie can be scum
-> -> due to meta reasons, she is aware of her own meta and people in the game who do so, and she adjusts to the gamestate
-> -> he has detected some unsettling things
-> -> -> with Nacho being in the game, they have played numerous games together and this interaction appears to be different
-> Town should lynch wgeurts and GreyICE.
-> If by some dark magic both flip town, ZZZX has to go
->
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-> He does not expect the game to last until mollie
-> ZZZX can entirely possibly be scum even if both are not scum
-> Disclaimer: shos reads ZZZX as scum in every game that they play in, so it could be a playstyle clash.
-> Zar is completely not playing to his scum meta.
-> Will townread him higher than ooba
-> Hammer and reasoning for Kagami is strongly town in his opinion
-> shos does not understand why ooba is SO townread
-> optimal strategy is to bus all partners for cred
-> do not go "OMGZ OOBA SO TOWN"
->Page 130 or around there contains wgeurts posts that are extremely survivalistic and as if he is trying to slip out of a lynch.
-> Is just begging to be called scum in a nightless game
-> "I TOLD YOU SO" about nacho
-> "<3" to mollie
In post 3771, pirate mollie wrote:also I am thoroughly not enjoying this game. I wish I never wld have replaced who and I wish I never wld have swapped into this game.
Shos wants to know why DID you replace into this game?
why don't you enjoy this game?
This game is very enjoyable -- it's active, it's not broken, nobody is really obvscum or obvtown, what do you enjoy in a game, if not that?
This should be a day-ending catch.
Vezok's lynchability pool is {wgeurts, GreyICE, Zar}
-> Vezok thinks Grey is scum.
-> Wgeurts is scum with grey.
-> -> Does not like how Grey changed his read on wgeurts
-> Wgeurts is more scummy than Grey so wgeurts dies first.
-> Reasons for GreyIce scumread: For "breaking the town bloc" and "his reads switch". "Looks like caught scum throwing mud at everything".
-> Game should be won after these 3 are lynched.
vezok is less caught up on our game than shos. Oh well.
Sonic's lynchability pool is {wgeurts, ooba, zar}
-> Ruling out mollie and Alchemist as scum
-> Ooba as attempting to derail Kagami-scumlynch
-> -> Fails, projects onto my slot
-> -> Prevents GreyICE and Zar lynches
-> -> -> Plays an extremely calculated game, if scum expected long-term planning
-> wgeurts as not "knowing what to do as Town"
-> -> Possibly taking advantage of ooba-town
-> -> Most dubious reasons for vote on my wagon
-> -> -> Plays an extremely sloppy game, fails to play optimally
-> -> -> Lack of teammate engagement
