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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:06 am

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I read that ISO and I think I have polio now
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:07 am

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Fucking [] tags in urls ruining ISO links. Start reading from here for the Quilford vs. Molla battle. Also an example of me-scum (I think I looked pretty town since I could genuinely hunt for the other team, except I went for a lot of low-hanging fruit and never gave a big-picture view of the game) and Molla-town.

Preview edit: linked it AGAIN for the people who couldn't open it! :twisted:
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:13 am

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In post 1020, Mina wrote:You mean like how I've actually
have
three pretty consistent strong town reads all game, while you've pretty much gone and called anyone you've townread scum at some point or other because your reads are completely inconsistent?

inconsistent. maybe. I don't know a lot of the people here. meta is something that really helps me. I don't really have that here.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:14 am

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but I've been open about the reads I have had and why.
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:31 am

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What do you think was your best scumgame on this site, Quilford?

(I just realized I kind of want to townread Quilford for being adorable.)

p-edit: I haven't really been able to follow your reasoning for your reads at all this game, but I'll get back to you when I'm not working.
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:33 am

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Also, a belated *hug* for BPC. If you're still reading this, are you able to give like 1-2 lines explaining each of your reads? But I don't want to put more pressure on you.
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:36 am

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In post 1029, Mina wrote:I haven't really been able to follow your reasoning for your reads at all this game, but I'll get back to you when I'm not working.

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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:24 am

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Now that's an emoticon full of conviction and sincerity, pregnant with meaning and truly expressing your belief that...uh...what, exactly? (That's not a particularly controversial statement, and one I've unfortunately made like thirty times this game.)
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:30 am

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Well, it's just that I would think if you really were that worried about me, you'd be pressing me harder.
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:03 am

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Sorry to see BPC go. Hopefully that team will find a replacement soon.

BB, does your remark on me mean you're checking my meta, cuz that oughtta be fun

Mina, how much would you say you Meta dive out of "paranoia" as scum?

Where's your head Quil?
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:40 am

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In post 1034, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Mina, how much would you say you Meta dive out of "paranoia" as scum?

I don't remember ever doing it. But the point is for other people to read that and see what I'm seeing, not just to quell my paranoia.
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:45 am

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Then what are you seeing, Mina?

What does the Alchemist wagon tell you?
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:49 am

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...I'm seeing exactly what I said I'm seeing in this post?

...The Alchemist wagon (as opposed to individual players' reactions to Alch) doesn't tell me much more than what I said in this post?
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:50 am

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Can you read Quilford's ISO in the game I linked in Post 1 and tell me if you agree, ETL?
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:54 am

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To be fair, I don't explicitly state the message of the first post. It should be pretty obvious, though--Quilford is playing
nothing
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:58 am

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In post 1035, Mina wrote:
In post 1034, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Mina, how much would you say you Meta dive out of "paranoia" as scum?

I don't remember ever doing it. But the point is for other people to read that and see what I'm seeing, not just to quell my paranoia.

To clarify, meta diving in general I rarely do as scum, because I'm lazy, but I must have done it once or twice for town points (can't remember specific games), or at least linked to games. Meta diving out of "paranoia" in particular I don't think I've done.
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:01 am

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In post 1038, Mina wrote:Can you read Quilford's ISO in the game I linked in Post 1 and tell me if you agree, ETL?

I will read it, but I am going to tell you ahead of time that cold meta does nothing for me. If I'm not in the game and I can't feel what's going on, a naked ISO is just words on a screen.
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:04 am

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The posting itself seems off-the-cuff and aggressive.

Is posting style very indicative for him? I think it really depends on the player list, momentum of the game, and how fun/not fun it is.

This game has been a drag. It has made people hiding in the shadows seem reasonable. Which is another thing, to bring up BB again, that Johnny is missing. Which is that yeah I do fucking think BB would slink into the shadows as much as possible as scum, and a fake hammer is the opposite of that.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:08 am

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In post 982, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Is that coming from like Meta knowledge or?
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:10 am

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@ETL: it's not posting style. It's that his case on BBmolla in that game was GARBAGE, and his reasons for suspecting him were very superficial and scripted and rigid. And he just did this bizarre tunnel that seemed insincere. Here he has posts that look like actual scumhunting.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:10 am

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In post 1043, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 982, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Is that coming from like Meta knowledge or?

.... yes..... I already said that.... Why are you asking useless questions?
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:11 am

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In post 1044, Mina wrote:@ETL: it's not posting style. It's that his case on BBmolla in that game was GARBAGE, and his reasons for suspecting him were very superficial and scripted and rigid. And he just did this bizarre tunnel that seemed insincere. Here he has posts that look like actual scumhunting.

Was he town or scum in that game? And is this a pattern in his play or just a singular example?
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:14 am

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Quilford was scum in that game. That's my point: he's readable, not very good as scum, and is known for being flaky when he draws it.
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:15 am

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(I linked to that game as an example of what I meant.)
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:19 am

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But seriously, I don't want to be mean, but it seems like you're not reading my posts or paying attention at ALL, ETL. Like, for example, how did you manage to miss that Quilford was scum there, while supposedly reading his ISO? I pretty much
said
he was scum when linking to that game (and have mentioned I was scum with him in Marketplace before). Are you distracted right now or something? Your questions seem to have little connection with what I'm saying.

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