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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:58 am

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In post 1224, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1210, House wrote:
In post 940, House wrote:
In post 934, Nero Cain wrote:lol @ House calling Boon scum.


When did that happen, exactly?


I'd still like to know what this is about, btw.

In post 932, House wrote:At first I thought he was trying to build a wagon on Boon to
pick off scum


That is ridiculous, why would scum join a wagon on Boon if he was scum?
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:02 am

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I don't think your slot voted Boons + you continue to act like you don't know how this game works. Scum join scum wagons all the time, bro.
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:04 am

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TBF, I'm actually worried that Boon IS town and you and Celt are scum.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:07 am

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In post 1227, Nero Cain wrote:TBF, I'm actually worried that Boon IS town and you and Celt are scum.


idk if he's town or not, but he damned sure doesn't deserve a deathtunnel on him as some sort of grudge lynch from previous games.

That's just bullshit.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:13 am

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@grib, why is boon scum? Also, I think I've picked up what you were mentioning in
Also, @nero, sorry for 'badgering' you, I just wanted clarity. I'm not town-reading xay, as that would imply having something substantial to read :P However, does your read on celt depend on associations?
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:29 am

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I'm sure you did, Bella.

I mostly just wanted to see how he'd respond to me.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Boonskiies

Until the Kitz replacement does something interesting.
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:16 am

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Bella, what did you think Grib was referencing?
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:10 am

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In post 1223, Creative wrote:So you will explain why ?

didn't like how he essentially turned tied to a player I thought was clearly town, I don't like his general approach. Granted those things can be null but I suspect house. I don't go making up stuff, he raises my alarms. He is worth running up imo.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:43 pm

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In post 1223, Creative wrote:
Davesaz

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In post 1219, davesaz wrote:I had the same thought as . Scum having that thought would want to eliminate the player in question.

Stop softing my role dude.

The House post I quoted was about Vampirate, not you. Why are you injecting yourself into it?
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:44 pm

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Work has been tight. @Creative you missed my reads post?
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:10 pm

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In post 1232, PeaceBringer wrote:didn't like how he essentially turned tied to a player I thought was clearly town, I don't like his general approach. Granted those things can be null but I suspect house. I don't go making up stuff, he raises my alarms. He is worth running up imo.
What has House done that's raised your alarms other than those two things?
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:54 pm

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In post 1235, Ricastle wrote:
In post 1232, PeaceBringer wrote:didn't like how he essentially turned tied to a player I thought was clearly town, I don't like his general approach. Granted those things can be null but I suspect house. I don't go making up stuff, he raises my alarms. He is worth running up imo.
What has House done that's raised your alarms other than those two things?

Generally it is his whole approach and it may be that is just the way he is, but it is easily something to hide behind and claim you are just looking at things the wrong way and got your reads wrong. Sure, it may be just a style and personality difference. He does play pretty aggressively and I know that from a previous game. I suspect him and want to know more, the best way for me to find out more is to vote, poke, prod and so on. I usually do not have "much" to go on when I cast votes and identify suspects other then a feel. Sometimes those can be triggered by something other than role. When I actually try and find reasons at times I can be horridly wrong as that really is not my strong suit... for example when I have tried to make a decision and come to a conclusion, generally my take has been wrong. So I ain't looking at that, and just the feel for me this game. I need to sort out what I am reacting to here, and is it just his winning persona, or is there something more, thus my vote. Oh, and responding to my subtle poke and calling it "intimidation" probably help feed my unease, couple in what I felt was a horrid run-up, well here we are.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:01 pm

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I actually feel something off about House but also Nero for different reasons so those two, ugh can't sort out which one is for which reason. It seems excessive though the back and forth.

Vampirate, between you and Xayzeck which is more likely scum or a counter wagon or do you think all three wagons on day one were town?
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:03 pm

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Kitz, I'm sorry to see you go. TBH, I know what you mean about "not feeling" a game or being invested. Hope to play again with some time, be happy silly adorable fox :)
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:22 pm

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Pssst, Rubicon.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:24 pm

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You changed your avatar! Who is it now? Is it holding a flower?

What song is it dancing to?

Also, I feel this game :P
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:25 pm

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In post 1237, elusive wrote:I actually feel something off about House but also Nero for different reasons so those two, ugh can't sort out which one is for which reason. It seems excessive though the back and forth.

Vampirate, between you and Xayzeck which is more likely scum or a counter wagon or do you think all three wagons on day one were town?

Whether if I were mafia or town my answer would probably be the same, Xay is likely to be more scum than I.

It's possible all 3 wagon's were town, lurking behavior, while anti town in nature is not a scum tell. I suspected a lurker in my last game, she was my first suspicion, however her slot was found to be town.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:29 pm

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Can you link to your most recent town and scum games? thanks.

Also, Skold was not a lurker.
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:44 pm

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In post 1240, elusive wrote:You changed your avatar! Who is it now? Is it holding a flower?

What song is it dancing to?

Also, I feel this game :P


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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:55 pm

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In post 1242, elusive wrote:Can you link to your most recent town and scum games? thanks.

Also, Skold was not a lurker.


I was referring to Xayzeck who was lurking quite a bit or just not posting anything at all.

Anyways my last games where I was town and mafia.

Town - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=61017

Scum - http://forums.megatokyo.com/index.php?s ... 39005&st=0
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:11 pm

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In post 1222, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1208, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1207, Nero Cain wrote:So I'm 100% this far



Unless you're Scum this time, right?

What does this even mean?



You said you correctly read House's alignment in every game. This suggests that you're reading him correctly in this game as well.

If you are Scum, though, that would make an exception to your psychic streak, you'd just be scumreading him for the sake of a mislynch.

So I'm FoSing you. That's what it means.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:18 pm

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In post 1223, Creative wrote:

In post 917, Klingoncelt wrote:The wagons are on Skold and Vampirate, and I'm not crazy about lynching either one.

I'll pick one to vote for in a few hours.


In post 919, Klingoncelt wrote:

Anyway, I've been unable to read Garmer/Xay as Town. I'd be more comfortable lynching him than Skold or Vampirate, but I don't think that can happen in a day.


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Not seeing why anyone should pick between wagons, it's day 1, why would u not rather push in a direction you would prefer, joinin a wagon without reasoning just creates room for you to bounce around that after the flip, saying u weren´t sure of what u were doing, wich is not necessary scummy, but it definetly makes you a question mark, wich is bad for town.




There wasn't a lot of time left, starting a new wagon and running it to a lynch would have been impossible.

I'm not a big fan of No Lynches on Day 1.

While I didn't like either wagon Skold, Vampirate,) I've been proven wrong on my D1 choices in other games. Either one just might have flipped Scum for all I know.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:19 pm

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In post 1227, Nero Cain wrote:TBF, I'm actually worried that Boon IS town and you and Celt are scum.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If we were both Scum we'd kill each other in the PT, game over.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:06 pm

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Nero and House could be TvT

I'm still good with a Boon lynch

Ricastle treating himself as the strongest townread and most likely NK target struck me as weird.

I kinda like Kling so far today
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:07 pm

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In post 1237, elusive wrote:I actually feel something off about House but also Nero for different reasons so those two, ugh can't sort out which one is for which reason. It seems excessive though the back and forth.

Elaborate?
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