In post 3627, Gammagooey wrote:I think your espeonage vote is bad and that you should feel bad about it.
mostly because I think his posts show dem town motivations which I already went over forever ago.
I don't really agree with the latter, but I freely admit that my Espeonage vote probably needs a refresh. I voted him because I didn't want to vote for any of the other wagons at the time.
who else do you think is scum?
This is a good time for me to answer this question, as much as to myself as to you, but I think it's likely that I'm going to be deciding on people I'm willing to lynch from a people of people on whom I don't have townreads at this point. When your foothold on the game is as mine is, that feels the safer way to go, but I'm just going to discuss my state of play on everyone and see where that gets me.
Actiondan
- Could still lynch, though I'm not gripped by certainty of his scumminess as I was in the Reckoning invitational, and I feel like I might be able to read him better when the numbers have thinned out. I'd like to hear his opinion on me, having been one of the people to eventually figure me out in Retrospective Rehash.
Aronis
- Probably scum, to be honest. Has had the generic lurker thing going on for a long while, seems mostly content to just skate along while we argue and argue and argue.
Bulbazak
- This read probably needs another refresh because I haven't read much from him since my last big posts, but there are definitely things that bothered me before about which you can read in my iso. The fact that he's been pushing me doesn't endear him to me but I'm not sure to what extent that's pushing me towards thinking that he is scum. Certainly would lynch him over most of the current candidates, at least.
Cheetory6
- Been up and down for a long time but now settling pretty solidly on town. I like his frustration at how the Day is slipping towards another 'oh well, let's hope ffery's right' and I think he's been genuinely trying to figure out me and others.
Deasvail
- Probably wouldn't lynch Today? I'd go back and look him over if I thought there was any chance of him being lynched Today but I doubt there is so I'll probably leave him for later.
Espeonage
- Was pretty strongly put off by his entrance to the thread and most of his posts since have been in a style that I find relatively unreadable but have a vibe of being deliberately so in a way that I find irritating. Honestly not that sure how much of my read is scumminess (the entrance to the thread definitely felt that way) and how much is frustration. Again, would lynch over most of the available candidates.
Formerfish
- Thought Marquis was reasonably town, only thing I've read of Formerfish so far is a deeply lame vote on me that's probably null but is definitely disappointing. At least own the fact that you're sheeping ffery instead of cushioning it with a read that couldn't be more half-arsed.
Gammagooey
- Town, at a guess. I can picture quite vividly you planting this vote on me from across the room at the Reckoning and not budging even as I address you directly. I think it's super lame, but I think you believe in it.
GuyinFreezer
- Thought was scummy earlier, now I don't know so much. His utter conviction that he's found a hard towntell on me (I think it should be null as fuck, though) sounds genuine. Probably wouldn't lynch with any certainty of getting scum from it.
Mastin2
- Literally no opinion. Wish she would shut up about how dead she's going to be.
Oversoul
- Solid town, mostly a holdover from the Tammy read but the glimpses of Oversoul that I've actually read (not many, I usually avoid walls) seem fine.
Shadoweh
- This one's going to bug me. If she's town, then she's doing a pretty god-awful job of putting herself in my shoes when trying to figure out my read on her. The truth is this: Fenchurch picked up on that one post that I mentioned a long time ago, and I agreed that it looked a bit scummy, but there wasn't much since, and I'm not very comfortable with basing an entire read on one post in a huge game like this. I can sort of see where she could be coming from when she cites my confessing a concern that she was coming after me as a reason to find me scummy, but I slightly more strongly get the feeling that it's just a thing that she's using because she thinks it can get me lynched, like she's latching onto it as an unfortunate thing for town to say. But the trouble is that now this whole read has got wrapped up in several layers of itself - and I blame only myself for this - where I'm aware of the fact that I've pretty much always found her null-scum for no clear reason before, and there are things here about her that genuinely bug me but I can't tell whether it's just that at work again, am I confirmation-biasing myself, and so much of her interactions with me that I should be analysing to find her alignment are directly wrapped up in that. I want to say that her working on that specifically makes her more likely to be scum taking advantage of my fuzzy read on her, but is that just bias as well? Fuck knows, honestly. When it comes down to it, she'd be one of the first people whom I shot if I became an unlimited dayvig right now. I would be super relieved if she were to flip scum, and I think she's got a good chance of doing so relative to many other players, but I've lost all sense of trust in how I handle this read that I wouldn't be shocked if she flipped town.
singersigner
- Came around to pretty solid town soon after my long rebuttal to Empire a while back, still sitting there even though I dislike singer's willingness to vote Titus and her stance on me.
TellTaleHeart
- I may have missed discussion about what her Minor Night action meant and I owe myself a read-through her posts since becoming more active but I do still think she could be scum based on the circumstances of her replacing in and her behaviour in the immediate aftermath of doing so. Would vote over most other players.
Titus
- Thought was town early on, still think is town, deeply uninterested in mislynching her just when it feels like I've finally got a solid read on her for the first time in possibly forever.
Untrod Tripod
- Often scumread by other people in early-to-mid-game for pretty dumb reasons, which makes me want to not lynch him just out of spite, and I also sympathise greatly with his stance on how unhelpfully long this game is and so would quite like for him to live a while as I feel I'd get more out of a later game with players like him around. I saw
this while reading back just now and I can't quite decide what I think of it - it feels just a little too self-conscious for my tastes, a little too aware of his place in the gamestate, but it's possible that that's just something that UT has learned to think about more than I have. There are people whom I'd lynch UT Today in order to protect, but ultimately I don't have any particular expectation of a scumflip from him right now and would like to keep him around for a clearer read later.
Vezokpiraka
- Is vezok still in this game? I dunno, haven't read a post from him in ages, though, y'know, skimming. Owed a reread on account of lapsed time but I doubt we're in any danger of lynching our Boon Today so I'll let that wait until at least Tomorrow.
So what does that leave me with?
People I definitely don't want to lynch Today
Cheetory
Oversoul
singer
Titus
People closest to the above category on whom I'm not quite confident enough to bump up:
DeasVail
Gammagooey
GuyInFreezer
vezokpiraka
People I guess I would lynch, if perhaps reluctantly:
Formerfish
Mastin2
Untrod Tripod
People whom I think might flip scum but on whom my reads are conflicted:
Bulbazak
Shadoweh
People whom I could pretty happily lynch Today:
ActionDan
Aronis
Espeonage
TellTaleHeart
If they're actually mad at you, they'd probably let you know!
We're so close to deadline and that's where you park your vote? Why don't you like either of the wagons?