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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:35 am

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In post 1286, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Quil how did we jump from "Johnny for town IMO" to me being your top lynch preference?

I don't even really know myself. -___- gut
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:39 am

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VOTE: ETL

If she doesn't check in before deadline she needs to be the one lynched. I think she stands a good chance of being scum anyway and even if not I think LYLO will be a lot easier to negotiate without her.

If she does check in then there are the votes required to lynch JF anyway.

But I'll be sticking around until deadline.
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:55 am

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Miiiina you here? Or anyone?
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:16 am

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Pretty around until deadline. Not going to fight an ETL lynch but my votes on Johnny atm.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:17 am

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OK.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:17 am

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Mina wrote:Also, I think you have a very real chance of being scum right now.

I'm not some kind of unreadable machine.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:25 am

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Who do you think could be teammates with JF, Patrick?
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:25 am

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With two and a half hours we need Mina and bbmolla to commit to a vote soon.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:27 am

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Already talked about ETL, but if delving into the other three I'd pick bbmolla because I think you and Mina look very town recently and he doesn't especially.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:31 am

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I don't like how brief and unhelpful JohnnyFarrar has been this close to deadline. If he's town, his top suspect just got blown out of the water and yet he seems so mechanical, just moving onto his next suspect. There doesn't seem to be any confusion or angst at all.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:35 am

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Yeah. That's a really good point. ;-;
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:37 am

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Sorry, I was in the shower (and before that lying in bed so I wouldn't have to think of this game)!

THE TOWN IS IN GREAT HANDS.

I also need to go to my grandmother's soon. I hope my phone won't die on me, but I'll bring my charger just in case.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:49 am

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Deadline party?
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:54 am

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Johnny or Etl where we goin
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:56 am

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Or me I don't care but choose I'm in a show at the moment
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:58 am

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Not lynching you, and you should care.

Which of those two do you prefer?
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:59 am

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ETL if she doesn't show up in the next hour and 45 mins

Johnny otherwise

At least, that's what I reckon.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:00 am

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I don't know

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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:01 am

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I'm a sucker for etls "lynch me" stuff cause I'm in the same place
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:01 am

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In post 1305, Patrick wrote:
Mina wrote:Also, I think you have a very real chance of being scum right now.

I'm not some kind of unreadable machine.

It's not just "well, HE COULD BE SCUM, NO ONE KNOWS!"

I'm aware this sounds extremely crazy, and I should probably preface this (mostly for the sake of Quilford's sanity) by saying I have the support of...um, exactly zero members of my team on this right now. :( Which I probably shouldn't admit since this dilutes all the pressure, but still, FUCK MY TEAMMATES, THEY SMELL BAD. But saying this out loud probably doesn't hurt. I feel as though every step of the way, you've been the voice of "let's not think about this alternate theory, let's stick to the track even when things don't perfectly fit." And your posts are very reasonable, but have been kind of milquetoast in tone today, and generally don't say anything too controversial or far from the beaten track. And I'm worried, because I recognize that in my own scum play to an extent, in that I can fake having "good" (meaning saying the same stuff other people are seeing, regardless of accuracy) reads, but often, the lynch options are all weaker players who show flashes of towniness, and I won't entertain the option of the "generic" protown player being scum. "Boy, uh, this game is really hard! Oh, well. Let's just vote this easy target anyway. I'm sure he's definitely scum!" In particular, the most recent post I asked Molla about gave me those vibes really, really strongly. The opinions on it were all pretty conventional, and I can't pin anything concrete on it, but felt almost like you were glossing over the reasoning and just going immediately back to the conventional suspects.

I'm not sure who can be Johnny's partner, because literally everyone attacks him at some point, and now he and ETL are at each other's throats way too hard now. I just feel like it's a repeat of Alch, but I have no courage to vote anyone else, so...blah. I want to crawl under a rock.

I also don't like how your opinions on BPC and on BBmolla sort of followed the crowd and you backed away from pretty strong town reads on them (e.g., it feels like you downplayed how much you liked BPC on D1 when the tide turned against him on D2--yes, I know his D2 posting was pretty scummy). The thing is, I know I personally could fake stuff like annoyance at a town player claiming tracker really easily. which we loved I realized is mostly related to emotions experienced as town in
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Patrick, what other reads does Fenchurch have this game?
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:02 am

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VOTE: johnny
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:06 am

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In post 1318, BBmolla wrote:I'm a sucker for etls "lynch me" stuff cause I'm in the same place

I was waiting for one person to point this out...

...except it doesn't actually make any sense coming from your position in the game, especially since you know it's a null tell for you.

Why the fuck wouldn't you care, especially if 1) your top suspect is the alternate lynch, and 2) you think Quilford has a chance of being scum, meaning lynching you loses the game?
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:08 am

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I should probably concede I'm not doing the best job of focusing my attention where it's most urgently needed this game right now.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:13 am

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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:16 am

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What time is it for you in Australia, Quilford? (I thought she'd logged in from the future and was confused.)

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