Open 595: Elemental Mafia (Town Wins!)

[TheReverend]

I was town both games. Between Farside and Iyoice manged to confuse a lot wrt past exeroences. Im thinking you might be scum.

Papi, your next posts should include reasons not to hammer you.

Haha so now I'm scum for the following reasons...

1) Speculating about SK,
2) Failing to vote quickly when subbing in,
3) Having a bad memory.

Dude I'm a stoner, I've been smoking heavily for 20 years, I'm surprised I can even remember my name. Even still, I think you're wrong, that you've been scum in a game that I was involved in, but I might be wrong. Even if it's you who's wrong, I wouldn't go as far as suggesting it's scummy, because it's obviously not.

The reasons people are giving for me being scummy are thin, to say the least. There must be one scum between you and farside trying to get rid of me before I can become a threat.

[Papi Bear]

FUCK ME!!! I lost all my post!!!! o_o

I've read everything right now... I was my posting all my when my phone just died... I was half done too... >.>

Well, if you want to lynch me because of this excuse, then it's fine for me.

Anyways, Long post short. I'll give my reads

MIA:
davesaz/vettrock (They have no fucking reads throughout the fucking day!!!)
FA

Town:
Plot
Senator
farside
Bella
FA
BBT

Neutral:
choof
Wrong Song
Flub
Ricastle

Scum:
ConMan
Reverend
Rational
(It's also a good scumteam IMO)


WHY I SHOULDN'T BE LYNCHED:

- I'm one of the doc. (roleclaim)
- If I were scum, I would just replaced out for deadline to benefit scum.
- HEY LOOK! vettrock has done nothing!
- I'm trying to give out my thoughts. (I guess it failed to do that on the method I was doing)
- Please wait at least 12 hours to redo my post coz I fuck it up. There's 5 more days to keep up. Just need a beauty rest to redo that post.


If you're not convinced with this, you can continue with that lynch.

*sleeps*

[TheReverend]

That's a bullshit claim if ever I saw one.

[TheReverend]

To elaborate, I'd expect doc to just claim outright without feeling the need to put it in the middle of a wall unbolded.

There's no desperation to get the point across, it's too casual.

[TheReverend]

unvote

I suppose we should at least talk.

[farside22]

fuck a duck.

I got to go to my biggest scum read I can't stay on this any more

vote: conman

[TheReverend]

lynch farside

[TheReverend]

vote lynch whatever, does that count?

[TheReverend]

Anyway, what are we going to do? Run whoever up to L-1, and only lynch them if they claim the be vanilla?

farside should know better here. papi is still the lynch. His scum equity went UP thanks to the claim, not down.

[Senator]

Wow. Why is Papi more likely to be scum for claiming doc?

[TheReverend]

Well what do you expect papi to do if he's scum?

There's 3 scums, 1 SK and 3 docs. He's slightly more likely to be scum or SK than doc, in terms of pure probability. Factor in that the claim is scummy, and this looks good to me.

Furthermore, what happens if we don't lynch papi? We get someone else to L-1, who if scum, will simply claim doc to give us an even bigger headache. Are we only lynching those who claim vanilla? Is that the plan?

[Senator]

Right right. 3 docs, and 1 backup doc.

So there's an equal chance to be a doc or scum.

[TheReverend]

Backup doesn't claim doc, backup claims backup because that's as good as innocent child.

[Senator]

So how is that claim scummy? It looked okay to me, aside from not being crumbed.

@Papi

Did you crumb that somehow?


PS: How is claiming backup like IC? Its a weaker CCable role, that's all.

[TheReverend]

To elaborate, I'd expect doc to just claim outright without feeling the need to put it in the middle of a wall unbolded.

There's no desperation to get the point across, it's too casual.

[TheReverend]

PS: How is claiming backup like IC? Its a weaker CCable role, that's all.

It's a weak role, but it's a stupid fakeclaim for scum because it's easily counterclaimed at no gain for the scum. Are you seriously having to ask why the person who claims back isn't confirmed?

[TheReverend]

is confirmed

Phone posting annoys me

[Senator]

Okay. I don't think his claim was scummy. He claimed it first right under an allcaps banner saying 'don't lynch me'. And he even made sure we knew it was his roleclaim.

He's claiming, not flailing.

[Senator]

Like he seriously needs to bold it and put it first?

[TheReverend]

Like he seriously needs to bold it and put it first?

No, he needs to come across as sincere. Casually saying you're doc in the middle of a reads post at L-1 does not betray a sense of urgency, which is what I would expect from a doc on the ropes.

You have managed to dodge the other point I was making...

Are we planning to only lynch someone who claims vanilla? Is the d1 plan to hopefully run all the docs and scums into claiming so we can just lynch all the doc claims?

[TheReverend]

We have to be prepared to risk lynching a doc, that's my point. A doc claim should not be considered immunity from lynch.

[TheReverend]

I'm starting to think both senator and farside are scum.

[TheReverend]

Man that would be sick to sub into a game where farside and pisskop were scum crusing and then I came along and fucked it all up for them.

That would explain the hostility.

[davesaz]

FWIW, this is the reason Town!BBT would want to get someone to L-1 sooner. Scum want claims too, so it's not exclusively a town motivation, but it's better for scum for the claim to be as late as possible so that town can't amass enough weight on an alternative lynch. In the best case for scum they get a claim and a hurried mislynch, or a no-lynch.

I have some reservations about why Papi was chosen, don't recall seeing a clear case, and have seen no reason to doubt the claim.

I'm nowhere near being caught up yet, but Madman is a good candidate for scum from what I've seen so far.

[TheReverend]

So it's Chinese fire drill time then?

These always work out well.

vote ricastle