Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:51 am

In post 1574, Quilford wrote:Wow, ur scum play sounds, like, rly good

I don't even need to come up with anything for this, considering.... it is.

Quilford · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:53 am

That's nice dear. What youre doing is called confirmation bias btw, I thought you might like to have the term handy so you can look it up after I flip town

Quilford · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:54 am

Mina, are you sure you don't have any time to spare? I want to ask you about your BBmolla read D1

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:55 am

In post 1576, Quilford wrote:What youre doing is called confirmation bias

Thank you for confirming that you know I am town.

Quilford · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:56 am

You certainly seem to have enough time on your hands to berate me ;–;

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:57 am

In post 1579, Quilford wrote:You certainly seem to have enough time on your hands to berate me ;–;

Yes. I had an hour for lunch.

Quilford · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:58 am

Not you. Mina.

Quilford · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:59 am

In post 1578, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1576, Quilford wrote:What youre doing is called confirmation bias

Thank you for confirming that you know I am town.

Perfect example, well done

Quilford · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:04 am

Oh dear, I'm about to get onto the desktop to post a BBmolla case. It's 3 am. I am strongly questioning my life choices.

Quilford · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:14 am

Actually it can wait. I'm tired and nobody's here for me to yell at any more. Sigh.

Patrick · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:34 am

ETL, I explained what put me on edge about the game in the same post I said I was on edge...

To expand on it, I think Quilford looked really town towards the end of yesterday. I was around for the last day in real time and it felt like Quilford was genuinely unsure what to do. I also thought bringing up that this is my towngame not my scumgame looked town, because as scum he was in a position to profit from people being paranoid about me. I came into today feeling pretty happy that the last scum is either you or bbmolla, and I don't think either of your attacks on him have much if any merit. I would have felt alot better if Mina hadn't started having doubts about Quilford.

The reason people have been disdainful of your arguments is not some kind of scum conspiracy, it's that most of them don't make any sense. Like:

ETL wrote:You aren't scum for "just being wrong". You are scum for pushing NOT JUST the townies who were lynched, but being on the wagons with your partner, which not only explains the massive amount of momentum they had, but the lack of viable counterwagons.

This ignores the fact that your argument applies to most players in the game. bbmolla was on the same wagons, and was in fact a step worse because he tried to lynch you yesterday. I was on the Alchemist wagon and would have been on Brian if he hadn't claimed. Mina is the only player that your argument doesn't apply to, and even she lynched Alchemist and was suspicious of BPC/brian slot. Why does your argument only apply to Quilford?

ETL wrote:Like, the momentum of support for lynching BB is alarming.

This would make some sense as an argument if we were in lylo. As it is, a minimum of 2 protown players think bbmolla is scummy, and possibly 3. I can kind of see why you'd say this if you're town who genuinely thinks Quilford is scum, but it doesn't make any sense as an argument.

ETL wrote:You've also pushed me consistently from the sidelines, waffling on me, because it's clear as shit you don't know how to handle me. You don't know how to get me to townread you and you know I won't just take your shit lying down. If you don't, you should.

See this, also applies to everybody else alive in the game now.

Looking back at how the end of yesterday happened, I think Quilford signed onto the Johnny lynch before Mina did - I don't think Mina begged him to do that at all. If Quilford is scum he played this passage extremely well, because it looks utterly real to me. Mina, what do you think?

Patrick · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:42 am

bbmolla, how come you don't sound like you believe it when you made a case against Quilford? How much is it your teams opinion versus your own?

BBmolla · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:02 am

At the start I didn't believe it but now I actually think it makes a lot of sense

And even if I disagreed, I'm outnumbered by my team like 3:1

BBmolla · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:04 am

In post 1517, Quilford wrote:
In post 210, BBmolla wrote:(Quip it's possible Alche is just not very good, so calling him scum because he's not doing what good town do is kind of a meh argument.)

(No offense Alche. Or take offense, either way)

Sleepy didn't get why BB was voting Al if he thought this

Because it was a shit argument. I thought he was scum but I'm not going to support shit reasoning.

BBmolla · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:08 am

In post 1503, Mina wrote:
In post 1501, Quilford wrote:Hey Mina, is your BBmolla vote a team-sponsored thing? I'm interested to know what they're saying.

That's also where they've been leaning, but I took the initiative to vote on my own when I saw that latest stream of posting.

It's not that anyone who suspects Quilford is scum. (If you ignore his play and look solely at his interactions with JF/serra, there's a decent case for it.) It's that Molla sounded like a robot while doing it, fell into his Serious Case Maker scum meta, and has a really unnatural 180 that I don't buy and seems based on "I need a second mislynch that I can only get while ETL is alive to win." (Not to mention the similarity to Marketplace is really stretchy.)

It's because I'm literally just reposting for you what vezok posted, no fucking shit it's gonna sound robotic.

Come on don't be dumb

BBmolla · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:10 am

Like you said yourself I don't make cases. The only bit that is mine is the thing about quil saying I'm scum for not scumhunting, which is the same bullshit he pulled in marketplace.

BBmolla · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:15 am

In post 1525, Patrick wrote:Mostly in jest because I felt quite relaxed about the game last night and now sneaking on and looking at this last page puts me on edge. I guess I'd have been happier if Mina had just carried on calling you obvtown.

I don't like how bbmolla's team opinion of you seemed to transition into being his opinion (unless he's voting completely on teams view and not his own). I want to hear more about when he decided that. I'll have a closer look at this game in a few hours when I don't risk losing my job in the process.

Was I not talking about how I have everyone as town and was hopelessly lost

Like did I just dream that

If my team who I know is town all agrees on quil scum while I've been getting less and less certain of etl scum, why is me thinking they could be right hard to believe.

BBmolla · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:20 am

In post 1571, Quilford wrote:
In post 1561, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:And now, pushing BB, who really hasn't done anything scummy besides "I don't like his scum hunting". Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know this guy like... at all?

And you whine at me for misrepresenting you.

Look at BBmolla's reason for thinking Alchemist scum. He thought Alchemist was scum for "posting shit for the sake of posting shit" when Alchemist was actually just talking about RVS in the middle of a discussion about RVS. Plus "oh I saw the same shit Patrick did." I have been all over BBmolla's terrible Al!scum reasoning all game.

Rofl

BBmolla · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:20 am

Quil is scum if we have to go through me first to lynch him so be it

BBmolla · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:21 am

"I thought BB was scum all along! I just decided to strategically never give an inkling of voting him or thinking it was scum!"

Lmao

BBmolla · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:27 am

It's like everyone in this game sans etl is pretending they've never played with me before holy shit

This is like standard molla town being bad

Etl probably knows cause she remembers xmen

Quilford · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:27 pm

In post 1594, BBmolla wrote:"I thought BB was scum all along! I just decided to strategically never give an inkling of voting him or thinking it was scum!"

Lmao

This is so not what I'm saying. I always disliked some of your posts but it was tempered with flashes of town-sounding emotion.

Quilford · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:28 pm

Now that we're here though and you're being really scummy, your earlier scumminess is emerging as considerably more relevant too.

zoraster · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:18 pm

Day 3

BBMolla ( 1 )

Mina

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(L - 2 )

*** Quilford ( 2 ) ***

BBMolla

EspeciallyTheLies

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(L - 1 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 2 )

Patrick Quilford

Total Votes ( 5 )

Needed to Lynch [ 3 ]

Deadline: May 12th at 20:00 EDT
(expired on 2015-05-12 20:00:00)

BBmolla · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:55 pm

In post 1596, Quilford wrote:
In post 1594, BBmolla wrote:"I thought BB was scum all along! I just decided to strategically never give an inkling of voting him or thinking it was scum!"

Lmao

This is so not what I'm saying. I always disliked some of your posts but it was tempered with flashes of town-sounding emotion.

So suddenly the town sounding stuff doesn't count?