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Post #2575 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:23 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 3:23 am
Because he said he blocked Eddie when mollie had claimed mailman.
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Post #2576 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:30 am
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by Magua » Fri May 01, 2015 3:30 am
Vote Count 3.2
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
GreyICE (2): shos, T-Bone
Cephrir (2): Wisdom, xRECKONERx
T-Bone (1): GreyICE
Not Voting (4): Cephrir, Iecerint, notscience, TierShift
Deadline for Day 3 is Thursday May 14th, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2015-05-14 18:00:00)
Cephrir -
51
GreyICE -
48
Iecerint -
50
notscience -
55
shos -
57
T-Bone -
48
TierShift -
50
Wisdom -
49
xRECKONERx -
58
The vote count is correct.
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Post #2577 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:31 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 3:31 am
Tbone explain to me again how Grey's claim supposedly outs him as scum
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Post #2578 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:32 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 3:32 am
also wat
ns vote is shos's now?
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Post #2579 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:40 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 3:40 am
I'm probably crazy, but I'm rereading the exchange and think Tbone is town. Maybe even Reck.
And I don't like Grey.
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Post #2580 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:41 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 3:41 am
And I feel like Iecerint should be way more wary of sheeping me than he is. I am used to everyone being against me, this doesn't feel right.
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Post #2581 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 3:48 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 3:48 am
I can buy ceph/grey/Iecerint actually
Ceph and Iecerint were my first gut scumreads when I was catching up and grey was LLD, so yeah
Anyway. Ceph has to go.
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Post #2582 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:01 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 5:01 am
In post 2575 , Wisdom wrote: Because he said he blocked Eddie when mollie had claimed mailman.
Okay but how does that involve me?
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Post #2583 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:02 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 5:02 am
I think Ceph does have to go but...yeah.
Grey should still check me tonight.
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Post #2584 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:31 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 5:31 am
In post 2259 , Wisdom wrote: ok let me be clear because I guess I'm confusing you more
D1 message was
Reck
. mollie sent him a reachout, mentioning she is pretty freaking town, which Reck acknowledged in
432 .
D2 message was
shos
. Eddie sent him a message saying that he was thinking Tbone is scum. shos acknowledged that in
1404 .
shos did not seem to realize it was Eddie though, because he was asking Tier if it's him.
Anyhow, my point is that Tbone could have known my messenger is day action either from Reck or shos, allowing him to claim a roleblock on me safely.
In post 2261 , Wisdom wrote: yes
Though shos is less likely because he didn't seem to know it was Eddie, unless he was faking it
In post 2267 , Wisdom wrote: UNVOTE:
Yeah, I agree with your thoughts. It's either Tbone is telling the truth, didn't see the claim, and blocked me because he was scumreading me, or, he is scum with Reck, they saw the claim, they understood it's dayaction from mollie's message, and so he fakeclaimed safely.
This means that Tbone scum is dependent on Reck scum.
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Post #2585 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:37 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 5:37 am
Or... third option... T-Bone is scum who fakeclaimed without reading mollie's claim?
Or, T-Bone is scum who actually is a roleblocker and actually did block the mollie slot.
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Post #2586 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:37 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 5:37 am
Your 2267 is a false dichotomy.
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Post #2587 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:42 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 5:42 am
In post 2585 , xRECKONERx wrote: Or... third option... T-Bone is scum who fakeclaimed without reading mollie's claim?
Or, T-Bone is scum who actually is a roleblocker and actually did block the mollie slot.
First makes no sense because at least one person on his team would have seen it.
Second makes no sense because scum don't block a mailman.
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Post #2588 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:16 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 6:16 am
Hmm. I suppose one person might've seen it -- then why does it have to be me? Why am I the
only
person that could've seen it and informed him?
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Post #2589 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:18 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 6:18 am
That's not what was argued, read again
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Post #2590 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:19 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 6:19 am
I just did, I don't get it.
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Post #2591 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:21 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 6:21 am
Even if they saw mollie's claim they didn't know it was a day action. Mailman usually acts at night.
You received a message from mollie D1, therefore they learned it's day action, making it safe for Tbone to claim he blocked Eddie
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Post #2592 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:24 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 6:24 am
Oh I see what you mean now. Hmm.
I mean, alternatively, he could've not prepared a fakeclaim with his scumteam and had to do it on the spot when he got the track result?
I dunno. The more I talk about this, the more I think he's probably town who made bad life choices.
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Post #2593 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:26 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 6:26 am
They have daychat, so
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Post #2594 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 6:28 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 6:28 am
Oh. >.>
Hmm. So then the only way T-Bone is scum is if he just went all balls-out with the claim and nobody on his team corrected him, or nobody on his team saw the mollie claim.
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Post #2595 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:47 am
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by shos » Fri May 01, 2015 7:47 am
proddodge, life and all
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Post #2596 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 8:26 am
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by T-Bone » Fri May 01, 2015 8:26 am
In post 2577 , Wisdom wrote:
Tbone explain to me again how Grey's claim supposedly outs him as scum
Well other than I already think he is scum. His claim is safe as it outs no new information. We already knew I had a night action (at least a claimed one) and we already knew NotSci claimed hated with no night action. I mean maybe the NS thing was a calculated gamble (he could have had a night action and not mentioned it), but the way in which he came out with it provided no new insight to the game state. What did we learn? What did Greytown produce to help us lynch scum? I think Greyscum's goals was to prompt a mass claim and to get some town cred with his claim by giving out true information. On the surface he has given us truth with his claim whether it's his real role or a fakeclaim. You can't compare my claim to his either as they accomplished fundamentally different things. I really don't know what his accomplished as town. I know that at least I may have potentially cleared two slots as town, so that's something. With nine players, from my perspective 3 out of 6 potential lynches are scum lynches. I don't think Grey did anything protown, he was just trying to look town.
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Post #2597 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 8:41 am
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by xRECKONERx » Fri May 01, 2015 8:41 am
TBF, I think if you look at, "OMG, T-Bone targeted a dead player and someone people thought was town!" then you do have to look at how safe and ineffective Grey's choices were, as well.
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Post #2598 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 8:43 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 8:43 am
ok. That's not the meaning of "outted himself as scum". You just find it scummy.
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Post #2599 (ISO ) » Fri May 01, 2015 8:45 am
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by Wisdom » Fri May 01, 2015 8:45 am
Why were they safe and ineffective? LLD supposedly targeted Tbone on N1, before he had claimed. As for targetting ns, having claimed hated meant nothing, we had a whole discussion about whether he is hated scum or town.
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