Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Quilford]

Other things that look bad (LESS BAD THOUGH):

- The fact that BBmolla thought serra was scum with Alchemist but also scum if Alchemist flipped town and yet was not voting him, as these two posts point out. Tempered by the fact that there was already a huge wagon on Alchemist, and serra had made very few posts.

An Alch flip of either alignment tells us SO SO SO SO SO MUCH

Add that to the fact I think he's scum

Why the fuck would we not lynch him

Maybe you'll answer what Quilford wouldn't. Who are your scumreads when I flip Town?

Mara and Serra.

If Serra's scum both ways why aren't you voting him?

An Alch flip of either alignment tells us SO SO SO SO SO MUCH

Add that to the fact I think he's scum

Why the fuck would we not lynch him

Maybe you'll answer what Quilford wouldn't. Who are your scumreads when I flip Town?

Mara and Serra.

then why the hell aren't you voting Serra?? this makes no sense man.

- This post, which is made and then never mentioned again.

I'm in that "I literally think everyone is town" zone

Which means I'm probably totally off and it's one of my townreads who I'm biased towards townreading, meaning Mina and Patrick.

Cause I'm like 0/2 with scumreads so far.

- The offer to switch off Johnny and onto ETL at the lynch yesterday.

- The fact that his teammates have been scumreading me since forever for awful / non-existent reasons. Seriously you guys, stop.


There are a few things that give me pause, the number one thing is the fakehammer and Mara claim, which yes, I was initially skeptical about the towniness of this, but each time I go back and read it it looks better and more town. Another thing is the collapse in confidence between days 1 and 2 which feels genuine to me and is played consistently throughout the day. One more thing is that he keeps pumping out WIFOM and I am a huge sucker for WIFOM even though I like to pretend I'm not.

[Quilford]

Apparently my post preview is not functioning. >:(

[Patrick]

There are a few things that give me pause, the number one thing is the fakehammer and Mara claim, which yes, I was initially skeptical about the towniness of this, but each time I go back and read it it looks better and more town. Another thing is the collapse in confidence between days 1 and 2 which feels genuine to me and is played consistently throughout the day. One more thing is that he keeps pumping out WIFOM and I am a huge sucker for WIFOM even though I like to pretend I'm not.

Yep yep yep

[Quilford]

BB I think even you scum would have the tact at the start of Day 2 to feel out the general situation, with a mislynch on Day 1 and a power role dead and two of the seven alive players having barely posted at all, and sense that the general mood is demoralized and that therefore going straight for your second mislynch is probably not a good thing to do. So I'm unconvinced by your selfmeta.

[Quilford]

Quilford, whats in your head? You must have more than just boring back and forths with ETL and now bbmolla.

Apart from what I've just mentioned on molla, my head sez:

- I wish ETL would actually be online and keeping up with the discussion consistently, instead of visiting the thread once every two days and doing a catch-up style series of posts that contain reactionary nonsense. YES i know you can't because you post from work and have RL issues, BUT it would assist so much in reading you.

- Patrick is likely town. Gaaaah. I wish I could hook up into your limbic system so I could actually get a better sense of how you feel when you're playing the game, because it doesn't really come across tonally and it's the one thing that probably stops you from being much townier in my eyes. How emotionally do you play face to face mafia? Curious but will probably have no bearing on my read haha.

- If I thought Mina could be scum, I would be suspicious of some of her recent posts about me which look like they're trying to maneuvre into a more null read on me. But I don't, lol.

- How in the sweet banana plantation do people scumread me? KILL THEM ALL.

[Quilford]

I think I'm finding myself swinging back to ETL scum. I'm a bit paranoid that I'm putting her at town just because she can yell really loudly, when really like she's not making any sense at all, I don't have any clear picture of any of her reads apart from the one on me, and I really hate how when Mina was engaging her about my meta earlier, she kept making excuses not to take it into account.

[Quilford]

I also wish mina was here ;-; mina why do you leave me in my hour of need

[Patrick]

How emotionally do you play face to face mafia? Curious but will probably have no bearing on my read haha.

More than I probably should. And I feel a boat ton of emotions when playing forum mafia, which is one of the reasons I don't really do it anymore. They mainly come out when people attack me with the kind of horseshit ETL has been going after you with (this is not an open invitation for people to attack me with horseshit). Also just before and after a lynch (I think I got about 3 hours sleep that night). If you're town, which I think you are, you'll have to read me in other ways, I'm afraid. I think you are though.

Currently though, I'm enjoying a nice read of your play in Mini 1575. I like that so far you haven't even approached sounding like a real person, heh.

[Quilford]

Heheh YEP that's my scum play alright

[Quilford]

And you know what's hilarious? We very nearly won.

[Patrick]

Do you think its weird how Johnny waffled so much on bbmolla or do you think that's just as likely he was keeping a mislynch open?

[Quilford]

Yeah. I mean it's nothing new for scum to waffle about their buddies, but there is SO MUCH waffle. Including that weird back and forth they had. I'm not sure.

[Quilford]

The weird back and forth is weird. I keep wanting to give molla net townpoints for it, but I don't actually do it.

[Patrick]

The weird back and forth is weird.

Will sig

[Quilford]

Lol

[BBmolla]

If you lynch me today you have to lynch quil in Lylo.

This will be coming from 4 then confirmed town minds.

Don't fucking ignore us.

[BBmolla]

Promise me Patrick Mina and Etl.

[Quilford]

good point, it is more likely you're scum than your entire team is completely wrong about me

[Quilford]

for someone who likes selfmetaing so much, it is really suss how the fact that this looks like none of my scum play ever doesn't appear to faze you from pushing me. and you have played with me as both alignments multiple times before.

[Quilford]

Patrick are you still here?

[BBmolla]

How many non larges have we played together.

[Quilford]

I don't know? Changes literally nothing. Go look at my scum play. Get your teammates to look at my scum play.

[Quilford]

Its very telling that you would prefer to make up some excuse why my meta is irrelevant to discerning my alignment than actually look at it

[Quilford]

Here's a question. Back when you were townreading everyone, why were you townreading me?

[Quilford]

*popcorn*