Mini 1668 - Mafia in Bremen - Game Over!


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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 8:12 am

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Forgot TheDudeAbides should do with more substantial posts too
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 8:32 am

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UNVOTE: HaVoC
VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

Like, there's naked pressure votes, then there's naked L-1 votes, and I have no words for how terrible that vote is. Basically everything Oversheep said. I obviously need to read the thread but I'm busy and I super don't want to, so this'll do for the meantime.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 9:15 am

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- Havoc, why did you choose to leave some people out of your reads list?

Town read on Elyse feels premature.

I see your reasoning for one of Rune/RC being scum in and that is weak sauce. How does the same not apply to Reverend and myself? Or Rune and Dannflor?

- PB, last time you posted you had Arceus and myself as scum. The next time you post with anything meaningful you're voting Havoc. What happened to your previous scum reads? Particularly Arceus as I don't believe they have posted anything significant since your last stated read.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 9:34 am

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- Arceus, are you an alt?

Also, the end of this post feels scummy. Like, if I decide I'm not going to continue with my post, I delete it and post what I actually want to say (in his case, reasons for his reads on people). It feels like he left that there to show *effort*

In post 264, TheReverend wrote:
I don't see you being so keen to slap down my read on toffee if you're scum with him. It's much more likely you're WK'ing him in an effort to get him on your side, in particular when it comes to pushing me.

Except that you explicitly stated that we were scum together here;
In post 153, TheReverend wrote:
Yes I think rune and toffee could be scum together. Rune is trying to nudge me away from toffee. Why do you suppose that is? Why is rune concerned about my read on toffee? Why does rune feel I should "look elsewhere"? Why would town say that?

What's up with that?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 9:41 am

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In post 453, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:What's up with that?


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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 9:41 am

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That was bad insta maths
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 9:56 am

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- Another alt. This should be fun.

Is that you, Anti? Bulge, have you played with Anti much?

I think Palkia is town already based on posts from this page.

- This doesn't address the issue Reverend. The people have changed, but the issue remains the same.

As I quoted, you said you don't see Rune hard defending their scum buddy by 'slapping down' your scum read of me yet you explicitly used that reasoning to justify how we were both scum.

Try again?

- Arceus, what happened to that list of reads/reasoning that you said was forthcoming?

- How is Reverend mislynch bait?

Speaking of jumping on major wagons; this seems an opportunistic time to suddenly be scum reading Rune (with a weak case) and voting him.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:05 am

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In post 456, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:276 - This doesn't address the issue Reverend. The people have changed, but the issue remains the same.

As I quoted, you said you don't see Rune hard defending their scum buddy by 'slapping down' your scum read of me yet you explicitly used that reasoning to justify how we were both scum.

Try again?


So I'm inconsistent when I'm tunnelling. Which alignment do you suppose cares more about consistency? I'm not reading back my posts to see who I'm linking to who, or what arguments I've made. I'm posting based on what I think at a particular instant in time. Guess what? That's a town tell.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:08 am

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BBT why are you asking questions to people no longer playing
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:17 am

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- Palkia, how does what PB posted make you unvote Arceus?

- Arceus, why did you vote for Rune and not PB?

- This is a good post. Rune is town and this wagon is bullshit. Will be taking a closer look when I've caught up.

PEdit - Who isn't playing any more Oversoul?

@Reverend, yeah, I could buy that, if you hadn't
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tried to defend your position further. I know which alignment is more likely to be inconsistent with their reads and it's not the one with a green PM.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:22 am

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Arceus replaced out. I am the replacement.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:26 am

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In post 459, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:@Reverend, yeah, I could buy that, if you hadn't only just tried to defend your position further. I know which alignment is more likely to be inconsistent with their reads and it's not the one with a green PM.


Well if you're not gleefully seizing on town derp then prepare to be surprised.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:38 am

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- I don't get this TR on Arceus from Rev at all.

You're also desperately trying to hold onto your scum read of Rune.

- Umm, I don't get this vote PB...

- RC, you're right, I'm a fucking fantastic player.

You voted me before any of this came up. So, your reasoning comes
after
the fact you voted me. You wanna try again?

FWIW, I would love to see you try and get me PL'ed. That would be funny.

PEdit - That's unfortunate for you Oversoul, looks like you rolled scum.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:57 am

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- Axe, why did you add Havoc to your scum reads?

I see further down () you explained your town read of PB and it makes no sense to me at all.

I don't get how you can town read Arceus without reading his posting. What makes you think he is town?

- Palkia, can you explain Arceus town read please?
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 10:58 am

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4 more pages to go!
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 11:05 am

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Nope, I'm not scum dude.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 11:16 am

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- Havoc, your scum read on Rune is poor based on a weak case.

Can you explain your Arceus read? Kept giving me tingles every time I read it. Wording feels strange. Like, I feel if you really thought his case on Rune was good you would think it was coming from a town mindset, no? This would then lead to a town read on Arceus?
Can you quote some of Arceus' posts that are 'not so towny'?

This Havoc wagon built up very quickly. I can kind of see why but the speed of it is making me nervous.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 11:37 am

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- Palkia, why have you changed back to voting Elyse?

You initially voted Havoc because Elyse had no wagon. Havoc now has a wagon, Elyse still has no wagon, and you have gone back to voting her.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 11:41 am

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In post 463, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: - Axe, why did you add Havoc to your scum reads?

I see further down () you explained your town read of PB and it makes no sense to me at all.

I don't get how you can town read Arceus without reading his posting. What makes you think he is town?

- Palkia, can you explain Arceus town read please?

BBT, I consistently dislike your posts, not because I think you're scum, but because I dislike your posts. The quality of the posts aren't indicative of someone being scum. I don't think he's confirmed town, but I don't think he deserves to be the wagon and I think he's a terrible D1 lynch,
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 11:52 am

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- Well, this is no surprise at all.

- I actually like the vote and reasoning. I was also thinking along similar lines re: Elyse but I don't like to give too much weight to pre-flip associatives.

Interested in you elaborating on your Rev town read as well as your leaning town on Axe (that was a solid early town read?)

An explanation of your scum lean on me would also be great.

PEdit - Anything in particular you dislike Axe?

Without talking about other people, can you explain your town read on PB and your read on Arceus please?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 11:54 am

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Alright, I'm all caught up.

I think HI's vote for PB was L-1.

I would like a current VC before deciding what I want to do.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 12:03 pm

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thank you

VOTE: prolapsed brain

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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 12:04 pm

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Wow.

Can you answer what I asked you?
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 12:06 pm

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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 12:07 pm

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In post 467, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: - Palkia, why have you changed back to voting Elyse?

You initially voted Havoc because Elyse had no wagon. Havoc now has a wagon, Elyse still has no wagon, and you have gone back to voting her.


because i hated the speed of the havoc wagon especially when held against the speed of the other rival wagons

i also hated elyse's vote on the wagon
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