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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 4:42 pm

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In post 1898, Garmr wrote:So what do you think when someone who is experienced like Elyse who has a strong personality responds poorly to pressure (early game and the aj situation).

It would depend on a couple of factors, and I think experience would really only be much of a factor with newer players (in which case poor response to pressure can be attributed to that and not necessarily be a scumtell). After you're in the swing of things, the story becomes a lot more complex, and I don't feel like I can offer a simple answer. It's hard to tell if Aunt Jemina was on to something when we don't have a scumflip to work with, but Elyse's jump to conclusions about the Night 1 kill does seem off on reread.
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 4:46 pm

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In post 1899, Elyse wrote:So can someone explain why you aren't at least letting me use my last shot to get town as much info as possible if you're going to lynch me no matter what to verify my info?

Kthx is scum. If you think it's me and not him, then fine. I'm willing to compromise on Boon because when I do eventually flip town, it will at least implicate the actual scum.

And if your a scum power role keeping you alive another day is giving them information. Even if your not a scum power role you'll be just a distraction.
There's plenty of scenarios here. Also did you crumb tracker anywhere or who you tracked and the results?
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 4:53 pm

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I've played with Elyse as town and modded for her as scum, she can be pretty clever when she wants to be, but there are probably five scum out there so I don't see the harm in letting her test her claim one more time, and catching scum elsewhere for today.
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 5:21 pm

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@Elyse

Kthx is scum. If you think it's me and not him, then fine. I'm willing to compromise on Boon because when I do eventually flip town, it will at least implicate the actual scum.


Things like this make me question whether I'd rather lynch you.

The counter wagon to presumed town!Elyse was TSO. You should be willing to compromise lynch TSO. There's been no real pressure to Boon so please explain your reason for saying this.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 6:48 pm

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Elyse sems more desperade than usual
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 6:49 pm

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Desperate
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 8:06 pm

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When I modded with her as scum Elyse was much more subtle, that's why I'm thinking her desperation might be townish.
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 8:12 pm

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Of course, she was never suspected in that game much, so that might be the difference.
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 8:47 pm

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Sorry I've been missing, but I'll have to be missing a little more. I'll be able to phone post but don't expect deep thoughts.

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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:03 am

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In post 1901, Garmr wrote:
In post 1899, Elyse wrote:So can someone explain why you aren't at least letting me use my last shot to get town as much info as possible if you're going to lynch me no matter what to verify my info?

Kthx is scum. If you think it's me and not him, then fine. I'm willing to compromise on Boon because when I do eventually flip town, it will at least implicate the actual scum.

And if your a scum power role keeping you alive another day is giving them information. Even if your not a scum power role you'll be just a distraction.
There's plenty of scenarios here. Also did you crumb tracker anywhere or who you tracked and the results?

No I didn't crumb anything.
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@Elyse

Kthx is scum. If you think it's me and not him, then fine. I'm willing to compromise on Boon because when I do eventually flip town, it will at least implicate the actual scum.


Things like this make me question whether I'd rather lynch you.

The counter wagon to presumed town!Elyse was TSO. You should be willing to compromise lynch TSO. There's been no real pressure to Boon so please explain your reason for saying this.

I am also willing to lynch TSO but it does not look like other people are. Boon is someone I have been scumreading for a while now so I will look there if people are unwilling to vote kthx/TSO.
In post 1904, Garmr wrote:Elyse sems more desperade than usual

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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 2:11 am

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elyse u legit have NO OTHER reads besides a lurker vi?
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 4:39 am

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Yeah I do
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:07 am

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You'll basically lynch anyone going, though. Kthx? Check. Boon? Check. TSO? Check again.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 6:55 am

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In post 1875, Fresh wrote:@RMM Sheeping Ank would mean voting for you. You do actually realize this right?


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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:00 am

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In post 1878, RationalMadman wrote:Anyone who wants to lynch me feel free to do it.

When I flip town and you realize that we were that stupid that we lynched 3 towns and 0 scum so far, I hope you realize that you need to think instead of assuming.


We only lynched 1 Town so far. Assuming the next lynch is Town, that would make 2.

However
, there have been TWO Townies that were
nightkilled.


Did you just scumslip???


You were on the Yakko, wagon.....

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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:10 am

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Official Vote Count


Elyse
(4): Garmr, Kthxbye, T S O, inte
Kthxbye
(3): Jaqen Hghar, Elyse, Boonskiies
RationalMadman
(2): Ankamius, Klingoncelt
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(1): RationalMadman

Not Voting
(4): TheWayItEnds, PeregrineV, ZZZX, Fresh
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(1): Kthxbye (14th)

Day 3 Deadline(expired on 2015-05-16 19:32:29)
with 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:22 am

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Not sure that's a slip exactly, but I want to see where this goes, since everyone else I want to lynch seems to be going nowhere.

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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:45 am

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This is not a fucking slip! How would this be a slip? How would RationalMadman substituting "lynched" for "killed" be a scumslip?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:46 am

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In post 1916, PeregrineV wrote:Not sure that's a slip exactly, but I want to see where this goes, since everyone else I want to lynch seems to be going nowhere.

Vote: RationalMadman


And
yet again
Peregrine makes a blatant leap onto a wagon which may gain traction.

This. is. not. Peregrine's. town. play.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:49 am

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elyse always scumreads me when she is scum.

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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:50 am

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smh.


Boon, that is about the definition of OMGUS.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:51 am

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In post 1907, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Of course, she was never suspected in that game much, so that might be the difference.


Just, let's clarify what happened with this train of thought, Monkey.

Garmr: Elyse seems desperate this game.
Monkey: She wasn't desperate as scum this other time, though, so I think she's town.
Monkey: On second thought, she was under no pressure that game, though...

Unless you think Elyse would be randomly desperate as scum for no reason,
this reason holds no water.


Please go back and re-evaluate your Elyse read.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:52 am

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Does anyone here have an issue with lynching PeregrineV? Because one scum is the same as the other, it seems more likely to happen right now, and Peregrine's above post is quite literally a fucking scumclaim. He claimed in thread right there.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:55 am

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I want to know where PVs scum read comes from before I judge his switch for sure.
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2015 8:05 am

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In post 1921, T S O wrote:
In post 1907, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Of course, she was never suspected in that game much, so that might be the difference.


Just, let's clarify what happened with this train of thought, Monkey.

Garmr: Elyse seems desperate this game.
Monkey: She wasn't desperate as scum this other time, though, so I think she's town.
Monkey: On second thought, she was under no pressure that game, though...

Unless you think Elyse would be randomly desperate as scum for no reason,
this reason holds no water.


Please go back and re-evaluate your Elyse read.


I just did reevaluate. I said she might be town because she's normally not desperate as scum, or she might be desperate because she's under pressure.

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