In post 1723, Zachrulez wrote:Also the whole thing with the night actions I am going to take the blame for. I intervened because Jason thought STD might be scum and I thought it would be better to protect Obv town pie over maybe scum STD. So to some level it's not fair that he gets the heat for that because he actually was originally going to bodyguard STD and I convinced him to bodyguard Pie instead.
So, jason was going to protect STD, you convinced him not to... and instead of telling us that, jason took the blame himself?
Would it matter if he did or would he have just gotten heat by trying to avoid responsibility himself? This isn't really a productive line of questioning.
In post 1723, Zachrulez wrote:The whole thing is stupid anyway as I feel there's a very good possibility STD roleblocked us anyway. (If that did happen that means STD dies anyway and A KILL WENT THROUGH. That last part isn't a minor point.)
In post 1663, jasonT1981 wrote:
As for saying who I protected - go fuck yourself. Not saying anything more, not going to give out any more information that can help scum work out who I may or may not protect in the night.
I admit, this surprises me. I thought you were going to say that you protected pie again. I guess your line is going to be that you protected someone that you think is a power role, and you don't want to say who that is. Fine, but I don't buy it.
Given that the scum are killing around the body guarding of pie, I find it incredibly interesting that your thought process seems to line up perfectly with what the scum thought process apparently was.
Also that throughout several points in the game you seem to be giving Tammy's read on Jason minimal weight even though she is reasonably good at doing so.
Eh. I think it was crystal clear who jason would've protected, if not STD. There were no other claimed power roles to protect, so jason would obviously protect the strongest town read. And that's pie.
As for Tammy's reads on jason... I'm torn. She figured out that Thor was scum, while I was still townreading him. Then again, I had a more solid scumread on Mala than Tammy did. So I'm not sure whose read I should trust. Tammy's a strong player, but going against my own reads is so hard...
I will point out that Tammy now has a stronger townread on your slot, Zach. She doesn't think you would swap into the last scum slot. Me, I don't know.
A question for those with more experience than I: how common is it for scum to be provided with safeclaims in a normal game? I know it is often necessary in themed games, but what about normals? Would it be normal for the mod to tell the scum "there are no doctor-type roles in the game", so that scum can safely claim a doctor-type role? If not, then that greatly lowers jason/Zach's chances of being scum.
It's encouraging that Tammy is talking about this game I suppose.
Here is Delta's entire itinerary of posts for today. I'm having a hard time seeing the scum hunting. Clearly his interest is fully on Jason, but do any of the lines of probing he's going into actually accomplish anything in sussing out Jason's alignment or are they just attacks designed to roll over a player who's admittedly losing his composure in the game and putting his foot in his mouth.
I'm not seeing an interest in actually wanting to find scum here.
In post 1663, jasonT1981 wrote:As for saying who I protected - go fuck yourself. Not saying anything more, not going to give out any more information that can help scum work out who I may or may not protect in the night.
That's funny. On D2 (post 896) Trojan asked you who you protected, and you readily said Pie (post 901.) Why withhold this information now, when you easily gave it up in the past? Are you afraid that someone might call BS on it?
If you're town, you should have no problem complying with this request. Explain to me how providing these night actions would help scum.
In post 1693, DeltaWave wrote:His protection choices are suspect because he missed the obvious choice. I think we deserve to know how he's acted so far.
I wouldn't say it looked like a slam dunk. I mean Bins felt like an obvious lynch with Occam's razor and all but there was still the no kill frame job possibility which seems to be what happened. In fact, I feel like Jason was far too confident that scum would never do that. It feels fake.
As for Delta, this is kind of just how he plays. He'll occasionally put effort into a post or two here and there but he's mostly in the background not doing much. I wouldn't consider contribution an alignment tell for him.
In post 1770, Egg wrote:I wouldn't say it looked like a slam dunk. I mean Bins felt like an obvious lynch with Occam's razor and all but there was still the no kill frame job possibility which seems to be what happened. In fact, I feel like Jason was far too confident that scum would never do that. It feels fake.
As for Delta, this is kind of just how he plays. He'll occasionally put effort into a post or two here and there but he's mostly in the background not doing much. I wouldn't consider contribution an alignment tell for him.
I've never seen scum do that until this game. So why exactly would being confident in that be a scumtell?
