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Post Post #4025 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:19 am

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In post 4018, Iecerint wrote:1. Mollie=Wisdom used her day message on Reck D1...it was instantaneous.

So I just forgot a claimed message I guess? Or he also has a delayed message, you're saying?


Eddie sent shos a message D2. We have talked about this.
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Post Post #4026 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:21 am

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In post 4024, T-Bone wrote:
In post 4022, Iecerint wrote:T-Bone: I roleblocked a player so obvtown that scum killed him and the amnesiac tracker gave his result to him! Before that, I blocked piratemollie and Who!

TierShift: I get an ability after I use my ability, but I decided to just wait and not have an ability for awhile! Why rush!

Shos: Whether I was targeted depends on what your definition of "is" is.


Singing a different tune you are, grasping at straws. You see because when I claimed this at the beginning of the day Iece said that he could see where I was coming from blocking Rhinox.

Iece is fucking scum, needs more votes.

You are misremembering -- Wisdom is the one who thought your Rhinox target made sense.

It is telling that you confused us, though.
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Post Post #4027 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:22 am

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In post 4025, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4018, Iecerint wrote:1. Mollie=Wisdom used her day message on Reck D1...it was instantaneous.

So I just forgot a claimed message I guess? Or he also has a delayed message, you're saying?

Eddie sent shos a message D2. We have talked about this.

Yes, I just don't really remember the details of the message business because it seems pretty worthless. I guess it might have interacted with Loud Doctor in an interesting way potentially, but we're not in a position to know.
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Post Post #4028 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:23 am

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huh? How would the message interact with Loud Doctor?
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Post Post #4029 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:24 am

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In post 2553, Iecerint wrote:T-Bone reads like he outright wants to get lynched. :?

I'm inclined to agree that Rhinox was obvtown. This is an even more ridiculous target than N1 post-remembering that Eddie was Who/mollie.

He may have felt bullied into claiming accurately by the presumed tracker, presuming that he did get an amnesiac result (which seems like something he wouldn't claim spontaneously, unless the scum all wanted to take turns claiming amnesiac results).

Let's give TierShift and shos a chance to post before ending the day.


I agree with Wisdom's lynch pool. I'm also leaning toward T-Bone being the better of the lynches. T-Bone being scum removes the main reason for my thinking Cephrir could be town.

Edit:
Why is shos voting GreyICE?
I don't see the vote in his iso.

@T-Bone, this was my first post to comment on Rhinox.

At this point Wisdom was still pushing you, but he shifted away from you almost immediately after I came out like this.
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Post Post #4030 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:24 am

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In post 4026, Iecerint wrote:Wisdom is the one who thought your Rhinox target made sense.

I didnt in the beginning of the day
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Post Post #4031 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:25 am

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In post 4028, Wisdom wrote:huh? How would the message interact with Loud Doctor?

I don't know that it would; I was just trying to speculate about a way your ability could do an interesting thing in this set-up. Maybe this version of Loud gave information you could have shared covertly with town, for example.

Pedit: Yes, but you had a post where you said that Rhinox made sense from the perspective of a frustrated player. I remember it because I read it like 5 times. I'm sure that's what T-Bone is thinking of, because I'm pretty sure no one else had the same take.
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Post Post #4032 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:26 am

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(You could claim the amnestic track with a message, but seems simpler to just do it outright.)
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Post Post #4033 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:26 am

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This is getting chaotic.

UNVOTE: because I don't want anyone at L-1 right now.

Has shos answered about the discrepancy yet?
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Post Post #4034 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:26 am

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huh, I thought you were still defending me at that point. Alright I lose on that one.
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Post Post #4035 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:27 am

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In post 4032, Iecerint wrote:(You could claim the amnestic track with a message, but seems simpler to just do it outright.)

wtf are you talking about. I had an argument with Reck for pages about why this isn't possible.
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Post Post #4036 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:27 am

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*sigh*
ok let's make order.
1. I receive a PM only if I am targetted.
2. I did not receive a "targetted" PM (don't know how it looks like yet) after both nights.
3. I was given mollie's (? or eddie's?) message immediately on the start of D2. I had a little conversation with the mod in PMs, trying to figure out if this was a night or day action, and after failing miserably (the mod is very good lol) I decided that this was a night action. only after the full claim I understood that this was a day action. I'm guessing Eddie sent this immediately at the start of the day, because it was literally minutes iirc since daystart when I got the message.

anything still unclear?
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Post Post #4037 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:29 am

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In post 4034, T-Bone wrote:huh, I thought you were still defending me at that point. Alright I lose on that one.

I was really inclined to not defend you because I had just found him town enough to give him my results! <_<
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Post Post #4038 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:29 am

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So the "I know I was targeted" referred to Eddie's message?
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Post Post #4039 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:30 am

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In post 4017, T-Bone wrote:Also Shos' flavor claim is eerily close to Iece's...
could you make a list of all claims & flavors? I don't remember~

In post 4018, Iecerint wrote:
In post 4007, shos wrote:yes, apart form myself obviously.
and it means that I did not see wisdom targetting me, and I *did* get a message, so it must have been a day action.

1. Mollie=Wisdom used her day message on Reck D1...it was instantaneous.

So I just forgot a claimed message I guess? Or he also has a delayed message, you're saying?

2. You expect me to believe that your idea of crumbing self-watcher who was not targeted is to claim self-watcher who was targeted? :facepalm:

1. it was on D2 not D1.
2. that was not a crumb. I was trying to figure out who was it that messaged me. wisdom confused my ass on this subject a LOT, but only later in the game, I think.
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Post Post #4040 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:31 am

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In post 4035, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4032, Iecerint wrote:(You could claim the amnestic track with a message, but seems simpler to just do it outright.)

wtf are you talking about. I had an argument with Reck for pages about why this isn't possible.

I don't understand what you mean and I don't remember what you're alluding to.

I'm offering another example of a potential use for your ability, other than just sending random messages. Roles sometimes synergize in interesting ways in theme games. It's parenthetical because it's a dumb interaction because you can just claim the result outright.
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Post Post #4041 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:32 am

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dude

-You receive a result that says you were not targeted during the night.
-You receive a message

And you're telling us you did not understand whether the message is day or night action? How is that possible, you did not trust your role?
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Post Post #4042 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:34 am

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In post 4040, Iecerint wrote:
In post 4035, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4032, Iecerint wrote:(You could claim the amnestic track with a message, but seems simpler to just do it outright.)

wtf are you talking about. I had an argument with Reck for pages about why this isn't possible.

I don't understand what you mean and I don't remember what you're alluding to.

I'm offering another example of a potential use for your ability, other than just sending random messages. Roles sometimes synergize in interesting ways in theme games. It's parenthetical because it's a dumb interaction because you can just claim the result outright.


I cannot claim results of any kind because my message is noted as not being from the mod. We went over this.

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Post Post #4043 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:34 am

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In post 3873, Iecerint wrote:My flavor is
When The Mod Gives Results To The Wrong Player
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In post 4000, shos wrote:I am
When the mod confirms the action to the wrong player
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Post Post #4044 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:34 am

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In post 4021, T-Bone wrote:
In post 4018, Iecerint wrote:
In post 4007, shos wrote:yes, apart form myself obviously.
and it means that I did not see wisdom targetting me, and I *did* get a message, so it must have been a day action.

1. Mollie=Wisdom used her day message on Reck D1...it was instantaneous.

So I just forgot a claimed message I guess? Or he also has a delayed message, you're saying?

2. You expect me to believe that your idea of crumbing self-watcher who was not targeted is to claim self-watcher who was targeted? :facepalm:


I would just like to note, I am laughing my ass off that Shos had just accused both myself and Tier for fucking up our claims and we're scum for it...and then proceeds to shit the bed with his own.

lolno?
you claimed actions that are just fucking antilogical. my role doesn't even have actions.
also as scum, I don't think I *ever* fucked up a fakeclaim, so if you consider this fucked up, ytou should be townreading me lol
the single time my claim worked against me was in Rocky Horror, where I just got unlucky not knowing the flavor, and I fixed myself up like a survivor and *almost* made through D1 after a basically gamestart guilty daycop my maestro. game was still won by tammy :cool:
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Post Post #4045 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:35 am

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In post 4042, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4040, Iecerint wrote:
In post 4035, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4032, Iecerint wrote:(You could claim the amnestic track with a message, but seems simpler to just do it outright.)

wtf are you talking about. I had an argument with Reck for pages about why this isn't possible.

I don't understand what you mean and I don't remember what you're alluding to.

I'm offering another example of a potential use for your ability, other than just sending random messages. Roles sometimes synergize in interesting ways in theme games. It's parenthetical because it's a dumb interaction because you can just claim the result outright.


I cannot claim results of any kind because my message is noted as not being from the mod. We went over this.

Mailmen are just mailmen.

I didn't mean that you could fake results.

I meant that you could be like "I received a message saying that X tracked Y" or "Based on the [loud doctor thing] I think Rhinox is a doctor."
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Post Post #4046 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:37 am

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In post 4022, Iecerint wrote:
Shos: Whether I was targeted depends on what your definition of "is" is.
?????
what?

In post 4023, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4007, shos wrote:yes, apart form myself obviously.
and it means that I did not see wisdom targetting me, and I *did* get a message, so it must have been a day action.

You received it during the day, duuh?

yes but I got it like *immediately* after day was started. timestamps are not allowed to be posted, but I check now and the difference between the gamestart pm and the message is *five* minutes.
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Post Post #4047 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:38 am

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Oh. Yeah, that would be possible I guess.

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Post Post #4048 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:39 am

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In post 4038, Wisdom wrote:So the "I know I was targeted" referred to Eddie's message?

yes. that wasn't quote a "know" know. more like a 'sure' know, lol. I had no reason to assume otherwise. You should check with Eddie how soon from daystart he sent me the message, and confirm it.
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Post Post #4049 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 2:41 am

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In post 4043, Iecerint wrote:
In post 3873, Iecerint wrote:My flavor is
When The Mod Gives Results To The Wrong Player
.

In post 4000, shos wrote:I am
When the mod confirms the action to the wrong player
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lol holy shit :o :o
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