Mini 1668 - Mafia in Bremen - Game Over!

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:04 am

In post 569, Rune wrote:
In post 565, Elyse wrote:Posting my thoughts in a bit

Spoiler alert:

VOTE: NotAnAxehole

Not the right direction for D2. I strongly believe Axe is town.

What do you make of him calling Dan town day 1, but now seems to have an issue with me calling Dan town which I did day 1 also?

That doesn't seem like town actions to me

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:05 am

In post 574, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 563, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 547, Jake from State Farm wrote:I mean its possible but at this stage of the game he's my top read. I'd also vote havoc but hammer without claim > lurking

P.edit - palkia replaced Dan right?
Dan wasn't scummy

@bbt, I've seen scum hammer/troll like palkia was doing, so that's another reason I'm suspicious of him. He kinda reminds me of house when he's scum

P.edit again - the Lynch was right, but hammering without a claim isn't something town would normally do. Sxum would cause if its a PR flip, scum win

???

He wasn't, I even said as much. He pretty much had the same thoughts I had on a couple if players and I even said so in one of my posts.

You were calling Dan town yourself on multiple occasions so why do you now question his townyness?

So, let me get this straight

Slot A is occupied by Dan, Dan is town...
Slot A is vacated
Slot A is occupied by Palkia, Palkia is scum??

Is slot A scum or is slot A town? You're simultaneously saying this slot is town and scum. On top of that, you're voting for that slot.

Why are you not lynched yet?

Rune · Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:05 am

In post 570, Elyse wrote:

@Rune
Why do you think Axe is town?

See my 507 for my earlier suspicion of Havoc and Axe. In any other game, I would consider this somewhat of a possibility.

That being said, Axe is a much better player in general than he is putting on here. An early bus on Havoc wouldn't surprise me at all. He reverts to trolling and meaningless comments when bored, and I can't blame him in the context of this game. This is really idgaf!Axe, and while that's not alignment indicative, I strongly lean town in the context of this game. If the set of Palkia, Oversoul, Hostile, and Havoc doesn't contain at least two members of a scumteam, I will be surprised.

I don't think Axe would be scum with anyone other than Havoc (in a scenario where town could win at this point), and so I would lynch Havoc before thinking about lynching Axe.

There are enough people who deserve to be lynched at this point that I don't think adding Axe into that pile is going to help town.

pedit: Jake I'll get to you in my next post.

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:07 am

In post 573, Elyse wrote:My point is that you didn't comment (and still haven't really) on the elephant in the room from yesterday (the PB quicklynch). It seems to me like you were testing the waters and seeing what other people were thinking before taking action.

How is it an elephant in the room? Also, I commented on it just to the extent that it was obvious PB was going to flip town. I honestly don't care about the quick lynch and I think scum should have NK'd palkia because I don't think he'll be today's lynch and I don't think he should be today's lynch.

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:13 am

People I will lynch at L-1:

TheDudeAbides
Jake (unfortunately, not possible given my vote is already on him)
Rune

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:15 am

In post 576, NotAnAxehole wrote:So, let me get this straight

Slot A is occupied by Dan, Dan is town...
Slot A is vacated
Slot A is occupied by Palkia, Palkia is scum??

Yes, cause reads change based on what people say/do. I reevaluate my reads after flips, I realized Dan could have easily been a convincing scum player, palkia killed my read.

Elyse · Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:16 am

How is it not?

From your PoV, a bunch of people quicklynched someone you expected to flip town as a counter to someone you are scumreading. And then you barely say anything and go after Jake. It makes no sense.

P-edit:

I forgot TDA was in the game.

He could be scum I guess.

Also, why Rune and why not Havoc?

@Rune
I am fine with lynching Havoc first. I am convinced Axe and Havoc are a team so it doesn't matter either way to me.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:17 am

VOTE: Jake

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:21 am

In post 581, Elyse wrote:How is it not?

From your PoV, a bunch of people quicklynched someone you expected to flip town as a counter to someone you are scumreading. And then you barely say anything and go after Jake. It makes no sense.

P-edit:

I forgot TDA was in the game.

He could be scum I guess.

Also, why Rune and why not Havoc?

@Rune
I am fine with lynching Havoc first. I am convinced Axe and Havoc are a team so it doesn't matter either way to me.

If jake is the best lynch, then why waste my time discussing the other matter which clearly is a non-factor to anyone's alignment.

I didn't

No particular reason.

Rune · Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:22 am

IMO Havoc, Oversoul, and Palkia should be lynched in that order (preference for D2, not a suggestion for the upcoming days). My initial vote D2 is for Oversoul because I think his play from this point on will make it less likely for people to vote his direction, whereas Havoc is going to be part of the scum discussion for a while, and won't be forgotten.

In other news, BBT continues to look scummy.

VOTE: Havoc

Elyse & others: Let's get the pressure on here.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:23 am

In post 582, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Jake

Why you ignore my question?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:24 am

What question?

Rune · Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:25 am

In post 581, Elyse wrote:

@Rune
I am fine with lynching Havoc first. I am convinced Axe and Havoc are a team so it doesn't matter either way to me.

How to explain the counterwagon to Havoc in that case?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:33 am

In post 550, Jake from State Farm wrote:Bbt, how about you tell me what's protown about hammering somebody without a claim and without a good reason and the trolli g the game after basically laughing at us saying FU.

This one

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:34 am

Rune town reading me while simultaneously very slowly building up a case against me is sign of mafia Rune.

Elyse · Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:36 am

In post 587, Rune wrote:
In post 581, Elyse wrote:

@Rune
I am fine with lynching Havoc first. I am convinced Axe and Havoc are a team so it doesn't matter either way to me.

How to explain the counterwagon to Havoc in that case?

Hm?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Havoc

TheReverend · Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:37 am

In post 577, Rune wrote:If the set of Palkia, Oversoul, Hostile, and Havoc doesn't contain at least two members of a scumteam, I will be surprised.

This, absolutely.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:40 am

In post 584, Rune wrote:IMO Havoc, Oversoul, and Palkia

Why palkia 3rd?

Rune · Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:44 am

In post 592, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 584, Rune wrote:IMO Havoc, Oversoul, and Palkia

Why palkia 3rd?

If palkia townflips I still think oversoul could be scum. If oversoul townflips I'm much less confident about palkia.

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:44 am

Is everyone discounting the possibility of Elyse / Rune scum team? They're playing off of each other so hard...

Day 1

Elyse at first suspects Rune, then joins him for no apparent reason.

Day 2

Elyse and Rune disagree on who to go after first HaVoC/Me, they are the only two who are looking to lynch me on Day 2 and the disagreement once again seems fabricated.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:45 am

In post 588, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 550, Jake from State Farm wrote:Bbt, how about you tell me what's protown about hammering somebody without a claim and without a good reason and the trolli g the game after basically laughing at us saying FU.

This one

There's nothing pro town about hammering without a claim.

That was a really easy question to answer. Did I pass?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:46 am

I'll read this game properly at some point.

Probably Monday.

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:47 am

I also want to point out - Rune claims that PB was playing scummy on Day 1. While I thought PB looked town, I am now seeing I may have been the only one seeing this - If that is the case, it's likely that the scum were not on the PB wagon, that was probably a town driven wagon (given everyone except me agrees he looked scummy).

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:47 am

UNVOTE: JAKEFROMSTATEFARM

Rune · Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:51 am

In post 590, Elyse wrote:
In post 587, Rune wrote:
In post 581, Elyse wrote:

@Rune
I am fine with lynching Havoc first. I am convinced Axe and Havoc are a team so it doesn't matter either way to me.

How to explain the counterwagon to Havoc in that case?

Hm?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Havoc

If axe and havoc are a team, how did the counterwagon form so efficiently and quickly? It would require hostile and Palkia to both be really bad town, which seems moderately unlikely.