If you have no doubt that Quilford is scum, lynching you is a horrible scenario because I'm not inclined to lynch Quilford tomorrow if I'm alive and Mina doesn't sound like she is either. That's what I'm getting at when I say that your offer to be lynched makes no sense.
Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
In post 1876, Patrick wrote:If you have no doubt that Quilford is scum, lynching you is a horrible scenario because I'm not inclined to lynch Quilford tomorrow if I'm alive and Mina doesn't sound like she is either. That's what I'm getting at when I say that your offer to be lynched makes no sense.
It makes sense to me. Explain this further please. I don't understand why you wouldn't consider quil? That is what makes no sense to me. That seems incredibly foolish.
Consider the scenario. Lynch me today, I flip town. You then lose either MS or Mina, giving you the following possible LYLO compositions:
Mina/Patrick/Quil
MS/Patrick/Quil
If you are already saying that you are not inclined to lynch Quil, despite him pushing a bad mislynch with nonsense, despite shying away from lynching serra/Johnny... Then who? Logically, you'd need to look at Mina or MS, depending on who remained after the NK. It literally makes no sense that you would remove quil from your pool. Please explain that.
I mean, you are voting me already, so you already think I am scum, which already puts you in line for the above scenario. I know what I will flip. I get that you don't, but I do. Which allows me to know the choices town will be faced with tomorrow.
I feel like I've made it obvious pretty much forever now that I think Mina and Quilford are town and that the last scum is you or bbmolla (now MS).
I wouldn't vote immediately in any endgame because its a terrible idea, but if faced with a choice between Quilford and MS, it would take alot to get me to vote Quilford.
My point being that in a scenario where you're town who's sure Quilford is scum, that's a pretty terrible situation to acquiesce to. Are you saying you didn't have a clear idea what my suspicions were from my posts then?
Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
In post 1880, Patrick wrote:I feel like I've made it obvious pretty much forever now that I think Mina and Quilford are town and that the last scum is you or bbmolla (now MS).
I wouldn't vote immediately in any endgame because its a terrible idea, but if faced with a choice between Quilford and MS, it would take alot to get me to vote Quilford.
My point being that in a scenario where you're town who's sure Quilford is scum, that's a pretty terrible situation to acquiesce to. Are you saying you didn't have a clear idea what my suspicions were from my posts then?
No I get what you say your suspicions are. That doesn't change what I think about Quil. I just think you are incredibly wrong.
And I don't think you understand. A LYLO where I exist is a LYLO where we lose. Period. If there's anything I'm good at, it's predicting movement. I already know what's going to happen. If we mislynch anyone but me today, I'm dead tomorrow and scum win. End of story. I know that already. I honestly don't think there's anything I could do or say that would change anyone's mind, which is unfortunate but true. I can't be in that position. It's autoloss. Lynching me today gives town a chance to reevaluate and talk over things without me as a distraction.
In post 1876, Patrick wrote:If you have no doubt that Quilford is scum, lynching you is a horrible scenario because I'm not inclined to lynch Quilford tomorrow if I'm alive and Mina doesn't sound like she is either. That's what I'm getting at when I say that your offer to be lynched makes no sense.
It makes sense to me. Explain this further please. I don't understand why you wouldn't consider quil? That is what makes no sense to me. That seems incredibly foolish.
Consider the scenario. Lynch me today, I flip town. You then lose either MS or Mina, giving you the following possible LYLO compositions:
Mina/Patrick/Quil
MS/Patrick/Quil
If you are already saying that you are not inclined to lynch Quil, despite him pushing a bad mislynch with nonsense, despite shying away from lynching serra/Johnny... Then who? Logically, you'd need to look at Mina or MS, depending on who remained after the NK. It literally makes no sense that you would remove quil from your pool. Please explain that.
How is Mina/ me making a choice between Patrick / quil a remotely good scenario?
The only bad thing that can happen is if quil is town and I haE to choose between you/Patrick.
In post 1863, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:i have no doubt lynching quil will end the game. however, the point i am trying to make in advocating my lynch today is strictly strategic - you need to understand this.
removing me from the game pre-lylo means in lylo, considering one of you or mina die tonight, that leaves only quil/patrick to choose from. that is a MUCH better choice than trying to decide between me/patrick,
specifically because of
inherent paranoia about my play.
there is no better selection. does that make sense?
In post 1880, Patrick wrote:I feel like I've made it obvious pretty much forever now that I think Mina and Quilford are town and that the last scum is you or bbmolla (now MS).
I wouldn't vote immediately in any endgame because its a terrible idea, but if faced with a choice between Quilford and MS, it would take alot to get me to vote Quilford.
My point being that in a scenario where you're town who's sure Quilford is scum, that's a pretty terrible situation to acquiesce to. Are you saying you didn't have a clear idea what my suspicions were from my posts then?
It's ok man. I am the very definition of "alot". I want quilford down and I want him DOWN TODAY.
ETL you need to explain how the fuck is "lynching me to clear paranoia!" A good idea if Quilford is getting lynched today and if you die it makes it a Patrick/quil/ me scenario
I still need to choose Patrick or quil, and Patrick * might* make the fatal knee jerk decision to vote me which um... Is fatal
In the event of which quil dies today, I need to choose between Patrick/ETL, well if Patrick is scum he won cuz I probably will vote you, but it's less fuckery than quilford living scenario
In post 1873, Quilford wrote:ooh and then the appeal to self-meta undercut by the failure to take into consideration the meta of the one she thinks is scum. truly... extraordinary
In post 1887, Metal Sonic wrote:In the event of which quil dies today, I need to choose between Patrick/ETL, well if Patrick is scum he won cuz I probably will vote you, but it's less fuckery than quilford living scenario
this is why I need to go today ms. I'm town and I will not allow this in LYLO.
In post 1887, Metal Sonic wrote:In the event of which quil dies today, I need to choose between Patrick/ETL, well if Patrick is scum he won cuz I probably will vote you, but it's less fuckery than quilford living scenario
this is why I need to go today ms. I'm town and I will not allow this in LYLO.
i dont get it...
you want to be lynched because of the 5% that patrick is scum
isnt it worse in a situation with MS/Quil/Patrick?
In post 969, JohnnyFarrar wrote:That's a false dichotomy if I've ever seen one. I've already said that I came into this game looking to pick holes in people, and BB getting town reads left and right is fucking baffling. I don't know what his alignment is because he hasn't done anything in this game to really tell me what his alignment is. The things I know are:
1. He's put forth more emotion than content
2. If he's town he's bad at it
3. If he's scum he's winning
See my problem with the slot? It's not a scumread, but it's definitely not a townread. So how 'bout this, anyone who has any read on him whatsoever, tell me what and why, and until then I'll just be stating lovingly into his eyes waiting for him to actually do something.
this is a very interesting waffle. way to hedge. he's certainly not describing a partner,
Up to post #32 there was a discussion going on between ETL and Mara about the merits of RVS. What do you think of ETL's attitude during this discussion?
All right, ETL's attitude appears to be inquiring and provocative.
In #14, he was playing along by asking Mara "Why do you want to skip RVS?", which in itself is a probing question and an action of also skipping RVS. So in a way ETL is helping Mara to skip RVS by asking for her thoughts.
#23 was a response to Mina, because Mina somehow misreads ETL's intention as not wanting to skip RVS? Which justifies ETL's response, because ETL herself is already making an effort to skip RVS by asking that question. So, um, Mina misread and ETL corrected her, nothing much to see there.
The exchange between Mara and ETL seems to be an action in itself of breaking RVS. ETL is clearly playing along by asking questions to get responses and understand Mara's thought process. So she appears to be trying to figure out the game.
