Game of Thrones

ISO · Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 11:29 am

In post 3248, quadz08 wrote:https://imgur.com/ZojM9ft

(spoilers for S5E4)

That's pretty unfair, considering how many people he cut through before he was overwhelmed.

Venmar · Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:39 pm

I thought the fight itself was weak.

"Oh Dany, im gonna to conveniently go for a walk. Oh look! Harpy! I'm going to be a hero! Oh shit, i'm old and there's dozens of them. Oh thanks Grey worm for saving me a lot. Oh shit, now we're both possibly dead. #worthit"

ISO · Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 6:44 pm

In post 3251, Venmar wrote:I thought the fight itself was weak.
"Oh Dany, im gonna to conveniently go for a walk. Oh look! Harpy! I'm going to be a hero! Oh shit, i'm old and there's dozens of them. Oh thanks Grey worm for saving me a lot. Oh shit, now we're both possibly dead. #worthit"

Aside from the convenient walk, that is the exact opposite vibe I got from it.

Brandi · Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 7:52 pm

I'm happy that Sansa is finally an interesting character.

Baelish kissing her creeps me the fuck out though

quadz08 · Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2015 1:49 am

AniX, I agree with you, but the internet seems to think he didn't show up to the fight for some reason, idk. I mostly just thought that image was entertaining

Brandi - pretty sure that's intended!

Note Sansa's "I'll be a married woman by the time you get back" comment - it creeps her out too

Rhinox · Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2015 10:15 am

Spoiler: 5.04 recap

source

quadz08 · Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2015 11:46 am

that is pretty great

esuriospiritus · Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2015 12:56 pm

http://imgur.com/a/OcRxY

it's... a parody I guess? IDK, there's a few of these and they're all pretty funny.

Excerpt:

quadz08 · Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 2:13 am

"that metaphor could've killed me" lol

DeathNote · Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 10:22 am

I am just now finally watching GoT and about at the end of the 3rd season. My thoughts after this last episode:

Starks are dead minus the little kids. Don't even care anymore. Seriously... like only house I really cared anything about and they just all died like it was nothing. Kinda don't give a shit about anyone else, even if the people who did the shitty things get screwed in the end.

Aeronaut · Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 10:37 am

what.
about.
Tyrion?

DeathNote · Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 10:51 am

What about him? He isn't a house, he is just one man who makes me giggle. I like Daeny too but no one has a respectable house that I want to win.

Basically I am just upset that the good guys lost already. Maybe the bad guys will end up losing too but I could care less now.

Aeronaut · Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:53 am

http://www.reddit.com/r/Hodor

I loled

Aeronaut · Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 3:45 pm

Poor old Jorah the Explorer

xRECKONERx · Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 4:14 pm

hooooooooooooly shit

hasdgfas · Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 5:25 pm

This was an excellent episode. Even without a lot of action, a ton of stuff happened and a lot of plotlines were advanced.

Iecerint · Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 5:27 pm

In post 3265, hasdgfas wrote:This was an excellent episode. Even without a lot of action, a ton of stuff happened and a lot of plotlines were advanced.

I like how 100% of the Next Time were of plot lines we didn't see, but they were all plotlines that I didn't notice being absent.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 5:29 pm

dornish plot real bad

Venmar · Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2015 5:44 pm

RIP

Barristan

the

Old

xRECKONERx · Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 5:08 am

Things that I immensely liked last night:

Did you guys forget that Ramsay is actually the worst? Because if you did, you should at least sort of remember that now. That Bolton Family Dinner was just too good... Fat Walda is my fave, and Roose/Ramsay's relationship is such a fucked up dynamic that I'm not sure who is
actually
more fucked up between the two of them. All the actors in Winterfell are killing it.
When Brienne started talking about the Starks and the North and trying to rally people to her cause, I'll admit, I got a bit teary-eyed. Brienne is, in a weird way, the last true Stark loyalist out there. Everyone else has accepted their fate and moved on, in a way, but Brienne's fierce devotion to Catelyn is causing her to be the new beacon of House Stark. I love it.
Stannis has gone from "Ugh, him again" to "FUCK YES LOVE STANNIS". His grammar nazism was a nice little human touch to the character. I love his looks as he watched Jon try to lead the Night's Watch -- he sees great things in him and respects him, and that alone boosts Jon's character.
Shireen is adorable and every episode needs more Shireen/Davos scenes. Their dynamic is just the best. Davos is so great with her. IT IS SO ADORABLE.
Jon being all Lord Commandery and trying to make a deal w/ Tormund was awesome. I loved seeing him as a real leader, even as he simultaneously loses the respect of his men. I think he has a chance at pulling this off, but nobody is going to be happy about it, and it actually makes the Wall storyline fantastic.
VALYRIA! STONE MEN! DROGON! That whole scene was good for the pure awe it inspired.

--

What sucked ass about last night:

Let's be real: the conversion of so many beloved characters on Winterfell (Brienne/Pod, Sansa, Theon, Stannis, Shireen, Davos) can really only mean that we're going to see even more good guys get slaughtered. I have my guesses and suspicions, but who knows with this show? Maybe all of them go down.
The Winterfell plot is obviously the main place where the show has diverged from the books, and it is all the better for it. But that is really causing the other areas that AREN'T in that plot to show signs of being ill-adapted, or at least behind the times. Winterfell is paying off five seasons by FINALLY converging a bunch of characters in the same place and it feels so rewarding. None of the other plots are even close to that and it's frustrating.
The way the attack of the Stone Men was shot was pretty poor, IMO. We were never able to get a clear sense of 'danger' because it was cutting around so much, and it felt sort of silly. There were all of these things around, yet, Tyrion the Imp was able to slowly roll away from them and never be in danger? Even the prolonged black out after Tyrion was dragged under felt cringey.
"Where's the boat?" "Oh, uh... we uh... lost it?" "Where the fuck are we? Why is there a beach now?" "Don't worry about it! But it certainly means that this pointless slow down tactic will stop us from actually getting to Meereen until the very end of the season! Thank god for that, you know, because we were actually on the verge of doing something with this god forsaken storyline!"
Where the fuck is Varys?
This was one of the better paced episodes in a long time -- and it didn't have any Dorne or King's Landing in it. That doesn't really bode well for inevitably having to loop everything back together.

Venmar · Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 5:18 am

I'm a bit chapped with how the season is going in contrast to the books, i'm too conscious of it and I end up liking the book version of the events as a result. That being said, I still like the show, but it's becoming alien to me and I think things like converging all the characters to one place (Winterfell) is far from necessary to have a good show or create good storylines. If anything, if the writers are converging all of the characters to one place to advance their plots better, I think that's just lazy writting if anything.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 5:22 am

yes, because having plots remain totally separate and never paying off character moments is better writing than doing those things

Venmar · Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 5:52 am

Having seperate plots and characters away from each other is the entire setting and idea of Game of Thrones (and in all of the seasons before this one) so I don't know why it is so alien to you all of the sudden?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 6:03 am

It's not that it's alien. It's that the point of separating them and mixing pairings is to allow character growth, and never paying off those moments by allowing characters to reunite or interact is pretty shitty. To me, the sloppier writing is setting up all these grand stories and chess pieces to move into place, then having the amount of plotlines get too unwieldy and wind up being forced to never pay off certain moments or just keep characters separate forever.

There's a bigger story being told, here -- one that D&D obviously know about and are building towards. Little character moments are fine, and the first 4 seasons being basically nothing but moving pieces around and setting up later payoffs is fine. But eventually, things need to pay off... and we're heading that way, now. If these moments were never paid off, it'd be bad writing, because that'd just mean there was no plan or rhyme or reason to the characters and instead it's just writing whatever the hell comes to mind with no carefully crafted arc in mind.

I sincerely worry that GRRM won't be able to pay off all the stories that need to be capped in the books. The books have SIGNIFICANTLY more minor/major characters involved and the knowledge that a huge swath of them will wind up being irrelevant or just get killed off and have no further purpose makes spending time reading them a drudge. I like the fact that they've condensed a huge portion of the Essos plot into Jorah. I like the fact that they cut the entire Ironborn storyline, because if the Dorne storyline is any indication, the narrative didn't have room to handle it. The show is streamlining the overall narrative because it's a show and it doesn't have real estate to waste on shit that won't matter, whereas the books

can

. The books can spend hundreds of pages on scenery and table setting and getting to know useless characters, because it can be whatever it wants to be. The show can only be 10 episodes, and as it accelerates towards its finale, it has to start paying off these moments, or viewers won't be satisfied.

I think, in general, most book readers I see are nitpicking and bitching about things in the show that

really

aren't worth it. The show was always going to diverge from the books -- and it is better for it.

hasdgfas · Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 6:07 am

In post 3270, Venmar wrote:I'm a bit chapped with how the season is going in contrast to the books, i'm too conscious of it and I end up liking the book version of the events as a result. That being said, I still like the show, but it's becoming alien to me and I think things like converging all the characters to one place (Winterfell) is far from necessary to have a good show or create good storylines. If anything, if the writers are converging all of the characters to one place to advance their plots better, I think that's just lazy writting if anything.

The show is not "A Song of Ice and Fire by George R R Martin", the show is "Game of Thrones by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, based off of A Song of Ice and Fire by George R R Martin". At this point, I've accepted that they're different canons and not the same story anymore. It's a bunch of the same characters and same locations, but things are a bit more collapsed and streamlined due to the medium of TV making it work better that way. The Winterfell scenes are

incredible

and a fantastic way to allow for some of the characters' arcs to actually go somewhere.