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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:44 am

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In post 1324, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT
Wanderer: VT

Alright. I don't think it's Plotinus. I also don't think it's Wanderer or Farside.

That leaves Senator, Lane and FA.

Strong to weak SK likelihood - Senator > Lane > FA.

Actually, as I write that, Lane looks like a really good shout for SK.
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:46 am

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oh, ok. It does make sense to look everywhere. Thanks for explaining.
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:52 am

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Oh hello we have Senator at L-1. I'm around for a little bit longer, holding a hammer. I'm not sure, I have no idea, but if we feel like we're good then I'll hammer.
I think FAQ2 can also be excluded for posting the maths in I don't think the SK would share this with town.
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:55 am

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Hmm, Lane could be SK.

Early game, there was set-up spec from Lane; this shows he tends to look at the game as a whole. However, during his whole time in the game (until towards the end of Day yesterday, which we will come to soon) he never once mentions SK. This doesn't quite fit with his overall view of the game.

Then, when Reverend jumps on me as SK, Lane is very quick to jump on this. He also says he 'trusted me' on Rev. I found this weird because he shouldn't want to lynch me if he trusts me. Thinking about it, it actually allowed Lane to line up two lynches; lynch me, I flip town then lynch Rev.

Everyone seems to think that Flubber was killed because SK knew he was scum. What if he was killed for other reasons? Such as to set up ConMan (SK may have assumed town flip remember) or because Flubber didn't have too many interactions and was a low info kill?

I actually think it could be Lane.

VOTE: Lane
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:55 am

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I will do Senator if people think I'm talking shit.
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:58 am

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It doesn't even matter anymore.
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:58 am

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I know.

Perfect win would be nice though.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:59 am

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Lol, good analysis. Actually makes sense
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:59 am

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Not that I'm surprised
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:00 pm

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You're giving up?
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:04 pm

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I mean, it would save us a lot of time and effort and you're very unlikely to win.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:05 pm

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Sk killed flubber because they got a good shot. Have you seen my scumhunting?! I never once thought any of the scum were scum. I'm not that good, that's obvious.

My trust of you on rev would've come after you flipped town I said I would go for rev.

Why would I mention sk when there were 3 scum left? You know that doesn't make sense. Also it wasn't set up spec. It's an open. Setup is known. I said I was bummed there wasn't more than 1 faction.

Let's be real. I'm not sk
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:07 pm

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Bella, docs are primed for repeat action, no changes to element selections. Back up: in the event of dead doc, don't say anything, just take their element.
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:10 pm

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In the event of a dead doc it's going to be obvious who the backup is. And we'll know everyone's rolls. Just saying
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:10 pm

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There are other motivations behind killing Flubber other than SK knew he was scum.

Which, as SK, would have allowed you two lynches, which is perfect.

Because it fits with your view of looking at the game as a whole (as you did in the beginning)

You're also insistent that I am SK and you're basing it on the fact that SK knew Flubber was scum (and as I said, I believe other motivations where behind the kill of Flubber) I think you want to get rid of me but don't want to waste a kill so you're trying to lynch me knowing there was some support behind the SK!BBT theory.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:11 pm

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Also I'd rather they said something so they don't fuck up the elements. Not that sk would go for her for a couple nights
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:11 pm

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I'll be blunt.
If senator isn't scum I think it's bbt.

I'm not explaining why just yet I maybe wrong, but yeah let's do this
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:11 pm

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Second line is confusing - I'm talking about you wanting to lynch me and then Reverend - two lynches is perfect for you and it was a good way to set that up and base it on 'BBT has been right so far, let's follow what he said.'
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:14 pm

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I'm trying to lynch you because it's the best case we have!

Or... it's obvious you're a good player and after your flip I was going to use the information you provided.

bbt, you were just to good for your own good
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:15 pm

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Anyone could have killed flubber for reasons other than they thought he was scum. Idk why that's evidence for me specifically
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:15 pm

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Burden of proficiency on day 2?
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:17 pm

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In post 1691, farside22 wrote:I'll be blunt.
If senator isn't scum I think it's bbt.

I'm not explaining why just yet I maybe wrong, but yeah let's do this

You're definitely wrong on me.

Lane, I'm using it as evidence against you because you just mentioned it!
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:18 pm

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I mentioned what?
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:19 pm

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You're right though. You are terrible at finding sk lol. ;) jk
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 12:19 pm

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I'll double-check but I'm pretty sure BBT hammered Senator.

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