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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:33 am

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In post 344, Heartless wrote:
In post 341, Perpetual Nonsense wrote: :roll: then ask him why

flubber why do you think von and dcl are scum?

It's not Anti's obligation to ask him why. It's Flubber's to make himself clear and understood from the beginning. That is, if he wants to, which is part of what Anti is speculating on.

This is also bullshit. There's always incomplete information in any conversation, and you're choosing to scum read me for it because(??)
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:40 am

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In post 329, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Read what I said about Vic. Then read it again. Maybe read it once more? Votes with no explanation make my gut think town. That's literally it, and it's not a substantial read at all. I had no gut feelings either way for the three of ya I put down at the bottom.

No, I don't think scum can hold the gun, obviously. I'm saying that it's more difficult for scum to influence a whole bunch of votes (a lotta people to influence), and it is much easier to influence a single person, ie the gunbearer. There are a large number of scum right now, so it only takes a few townies suggesting a shot that happens to be town for the scum to see and agree with, thereby creating a lean on that person for the shot. Also, scum can choose the gunbearer, remember? They indirectly control the shot (obviously not nacho's, but every shot after that), so it's more dangerous to just follow the gunbearer's lead, as that gunbearer's lead is geared towards what the scum wants, especially if the gunbearer is left to their own devices and town is afraid to argue with them.

Basically, I'm saying that is has to be a discussion, not done by majority vote and definitely not by just following the gunbearer.


I disagree that scum has more influence on the gunbearer than they have influence on the vote. Scum cannot make 100% valid cases, so anything they say to the gunbearer has that touch of falsity to it. I trust town (which is the majority) to be able to find that falsity and counter argue to where the conftown gunbearer can make the right decision as to what is optimal for town.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:47 am

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In post 331, julienvonwolfe wrote:
In post 311, Flubbernugget wrote:@julien can you show me where dcl is scumhunting?


Seems to me that she was angry and didn't post properly until 150 and then promptly went on V/LA. I'm wondering why you needed to ask me that.

I missed the v/la from dcl. Theyre supposed to be back today so we'll see what happens. Either way the reads don't impress me, and I'm not scumreading dcl so much as am concerned with the opposition of their lynch
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:47 am

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@Wanderer:

My point: You are scumreading someone for a non-scummy reason. Which is a cause for concern as the town you may not have done this. Maybe?
I am lazy to argue with you on this point anymore.

@nonsense:

In post 341, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:strong player who should be affecting this game being slippery like a fish

And Your plan is to shoot him.
1) If he is mafia, good
2) If he is town, get strong player to do something?

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I will say this first , if i get the gun, i am most probably gonna shoot who i want to shoot. Point is,I trust my own reads over others.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:48 am

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In post 187, Flubbernugget wrote:von you're scum reading people for the same reasons you're null reading others

"I can't read hydras" doesn't cut it

With the immediate backtracking that came after this posts and others like it, I have no fucking clue why I am scum reading vonflare
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:50 am

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PN has made like one or two townish votes but theyre scum

I want to scum read heartless but I think part of that is me being bitter/paranoid from a mislynch anti hit me with as scum
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 8:06 am

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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 8:38 am

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I'm here. I'll make it a point to read today. Had a busy couple of days. Next couple of days will probably be busy, too.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:08 am

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In post 348, Wanderer-nl wrote:@Heartless: A tad? You call 8 scumreads! How are you going to pick one of them out to 'vote' for shooting down?

There are seven scum. So yes, a tad.
"Teensy-weensy," "little bit," and "smidge" are also acceptable phrases.

In post 350, Flubbernugget wrote:This is also bullshit. There's always incomplete information in any conversation, and you're choosing to scum read me for it because(??)

Scum read-worthy? Debatable. Bullshit? Definitely not. Your scumreads are undercooked to the point of being bloody raw. The fact you don't have developed scumreads in the thread doesn't faze me much since I've seen you do it before as town. I do like the fact you picked up on Maxwell's read on yourself being underdeveloped and I think your more recent posts are more likely to come from town than not, for what it's worth. I'll also let you know that giving Anti his sass back is probably going to be more counterproductive than anything.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:22 am

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I'd rather you refute my scum reads than just complain that they're raw

Like if there was a cop guilty on someone right now would you complain about the depth of my read on them?
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:31 am

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In post 359, Flubbernugget wrote:I'd rather you refute my scum reads than just complain that they're raw

Like if there was a cop guilty on someone right now would you complain about the depth of my read on them?


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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:42 am

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VOTE: miller
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:53 am

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In post 361, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: miller


1) Why?
2) we have no one here called "miller"
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:54 am

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I just.. I'm just...

Tad is fine.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 11:23 am

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In post 362, millar13 wrote:
In post 361, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: miller


1) Why?
2) we have no one here called "miller"
3) :lol:

detached town has no need to catch up like this

I use catch up loosely but whatever
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 11:42 am

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In post 364, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 362, millar13 wrote:
In post 361, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: miller


1) Why?
2) we have no one here called "miller"
3) :lol:

detached town has no need to catch up like this

I use catch up loosely but whatever


thats no a response
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:09 pm

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I think I know what Flubber was saying, you seem to care a lot about being voted there. What's up with that?

Also:
In post 261, millar13 wrote:was going to say something interesting about wanderer-nl, but Heartless' avi distracted me. i thought it was Zubat lol

I'm curious, did you remember it yet?
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:09 pm

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In post 365, millar13 wrote:
In post 364, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 362, millar13 wrote:
In post 361, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: miller


1) Why?
2) we have no one here called "miller"
3) :lol:

detached town has no need to catch up like this

I use catch up loosely but whatever


thats no a response


neither is that
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:13 pm

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I'm sorry, I have finals right now and thought I wouldn't need to study for my Friday one, but I need to be safe and limit my focuses right now. So limited access extending to Friday.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 12:56 pm

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@AA9 - We're getting unofficial vote counts, right? Seems like that hasn't been happening.


Did I ask bad questions about Lucky and Red or is it just that nobody knows them?
More likely to endorse a Lucky shot if those are still the only two candidates.

In post 330, pablito wrote:Just as much as others are suspecting wanderer for not doing scum-hunting, I'm getting Maxwell as being half-assed scum-hunting. Which is why I asked the question of a voting system. If I felt Maxwell was pure town, I'd've wanted Maxwell to actually try to implement something. But I don't get the sense that Maxwell wants that. So prove me wrong Maxwell and force everyone to look at certain players through some type of referendum or focused-voting system.

You lost me here. Are you scumreading everyone who isn't suggesting a voting system? If not, why hold Max up to that standard? Or am I completely misreading this?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 1:20 pm

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[quote="In post 367, Flubbernugget"][/quote]

i cant wait to see nacho blow you away
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 1:20 pm

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[quote="In post 367, Flubbernugget"][/quote]

i cant wait to see nacho blow you away
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:28 pm

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Millar's reaction to Flubber's vote was bad.

Flubber's recent posts: Enough for me to say something about him. I didn't think the earlier ones were worth commenting on, but the recent stuff, particularly , give town vibes. I think it's that Flubber is challenging Heartless' view on his reads.

Millar's most recent post (posts..) also made me laugh. I love how hostile they got after Flubber voted them. I'd say that's scummy but it just seems so... what's the word? it seems like terrible scumplay, so I can only assume millar is scum who doesn't really care how they appear, or millar is just town. Im leaning the second one, but maybe that's just cause I don't think a millar shot is a helpful. If they're scum, they're not vengeful, and if they're town, I don't want them holding a gun.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 4:45 pm

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Nacho, don't you have any policy shots to take?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 4:45 pm

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In post 369, West9 wrote:Did I ask bad questions about Lucky and Red or is it just that nobody knows them?


You think I'm just lurking this one out, brother?

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