In post 4412, T-Bone wrote:We KNOW Ceph isn't fakeclaiming his role. We have no idea if Shos is trueclaiming. No one has come out and said they targeted him last night either, so Shos is making shit up. Occam's Razor.
YET DESPITE THAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING 1V1 BETWEEN CEPH AND SHOS.
Because the leap in logic that makes Shos town makes Ceph likely scum!
In post 4409, xRECKONERx wrote:Also it's a HUGE LEAP to say that T-Bone decided to fake that he BLOCKED THE DEAD DOCTOR instead of doing something people could believe as town and claiming he blocked shos.
Your theory would have to mean that T-Bone blocked shos... NOBODY got Rhinox's loud notification... shos's ability didn't work because it is an active self-watch that actually targets (lol)... and T-Bone somehow knew the right thing to claim was to have blocked the dead doctor, thereby making him look like shit?
I don't get it.
Tbone's claimed actions have literally been the worst choices if he's town, we've discussed that ages ago. if he is scum, and rhinox targetted scum, then it explains why nobody got rhinox' message, allows Tbone to claim to target the dead guy AND reinforce tbone's claim, and prevent him from explaining a scum-reasoned roleblock. win-win-win-win.
if you guys still think my claim is bullshit, I'd remind you that I had claimed all this BEFORE all this shitstorm. if I miraculously expected all this to happen, fuck me, I'm the best scum ever in the history of the game. This theory assumes just one thing - that tbone blocked me - and all the rest of the puzzle pieces fit like a glove.
not 'WE ARE LYNCHING BOTH CAUSE ONE IS A LYING SCUMFUCK" because I'm not that kind of terrible player. So again, leap in logic Wisdom.
@Reck. The jump in logic I'm referring to is that Ceph ninja's his role or something. Notice I use the term 'jump' which requires something crazy that we don't know about to be happening that is really stupid to base a read on.
Okay, no -- if T-Bone is scum, then why would he FAKECLAIM having blocked the DEAD DOCTOR who everyone was READING AS TOWN? That's suicidal. And it also relies on one of his scumbuddies being the one protected by Rhinox, and relies on that person NOT claiming they were protected by Rhinox.
Scum wouldn't have been told they were targeted by Rhinox until start of D3. How would they have had time to get their claim right? The only way that works is if scum have daytalk/encryptor... and work very fast. Because T-Bone claimed pretty quickly at the start of D3, didn't leave much time to strategize.
This is really simple and I don't know why this is so convoluted. Shos is lying about his role OR I'm lying about my block OR Ceph is lying about how his role works. There should be no other sequence of convoluted events that we should even be considering. Saying that "oh this, this, and this all happened because scum worked together" is fucking stupid, because on Day 2 it would require scum to have way more set-up knowledge than was outted in the thread and the foresight to plan this encounter for a later date. None of that happened. Shos or Ceph (or me) is lying, simple as that.
shos would never in a million years fuck up his fakeclaim, especially in Team Mafia. And ESPECIALLY after Tier fucked up his. I don't know what the explanation is, I don't know if Tbone blocked him or something else that we don't know about happened, but shos is not scum.
