Game of Thrones

[DeathNote]

Who else should I have seen? The Starks were the only ones that kinda shocked me. Figured they would be gone eventually but not like that.

[AniX]

My inference was that Stannis didn't particularly love his love, and his relationship with her and sex with her was just related to his belief in order and duty and so on. But I guess there's no discussion of concubines for him really other than Melisandre, with whom sex has another purpose, so.

Hell, he hates people having sex not for duty so much he shut down all the brothels.

[Venmar]

Or maybe cause he hates Brothels and/or thinks they're just bad..?

Stannis isn't asexual, he's just hardcore.

[Sudo_Nym]

I thought the idea was that brothels and prostitution are "dishonorable", so Stannis is required to be opposed to them.

That said, he does seem to have a grudge against sex for pleasure, as a result of Robert's actions.

[AniX]

Or maybe cause he hates Brothels and/or thinks they're just bad..?

Stannis isn't asexual, he's just hardcore.

ONE LEADS TO THE OTHER.

[Venmar]

=/=

[AniX]

=/=

Of course not, but it isn't particularly hardcore to "only fuck your wife like once or twice a year and only for a heir". That's just asexuality.

[DeathNote]

Finished season 4!
Oh Arya I can't say I blame you but I had hoped for better.

Guess I gotta wait till season 5 comes out for youtube now.

[xRECKONERx]

orrrr just move here and use my HBO

[DeathNote]

orrrr just move here and use my HBO

Tempting

[Aeronaut]

So... Am I the only one who roots for little finger?


Honestly, if you aren't rooting for Jon Snow on some level, there's something wrong with you. I also find myself rooting for Stannis, Breanne, Sansa lately, and of course Tyrion.

[Brandi]

I'm rooting for lots of people too
I honestly want Dany to be #1 but Jon snow and the rest you mentioned I care about just as much. Tyrion has been my fav character for the entire series but this season he has not been as interesting, which isn't the character's fault really. And Arya, I love Arya so much and am really interested in what they are gonna do with her next.

I don't really think Littlefinger is the worst (as in evil/malicious) but he is pretty fucked up. He's still very interesting and resourceful though.

[Brandi]

actually no he is pretty malicious nvm
but still not sure about evil

like evil to me is Geoffrey, Ramsay, The Mountain and Roose

[bv310]

Littlefinger's a fucking sociopath, but he's the kind of sociopath that I want to win when all the dust settles in Westeros.

[Brandi]

Since the hound can't be my favorite "bad guy" anymore, littlefinger takes the spot I guess.

[Aeronaut]

But

he killed Joffrey

He is literally the best

[Iecerint]

I want Sansa, Shireen, and Dany to rule the world and make it into a sapphic paradise.

[Brandi]

But

he killed Joffrey

He is literally the best

yeah after ruining the starks :c

[Iecerint]

But

he killed Joffrey

He is literally the best

yeah after ruining the starks :c

Are his motives for causing the original instability ever clarified?

[quadz08]

"chaos isn't a pit. chaos is a ladder"

[xRECKONERx]

Destabilizing the realm gives him a chance to climb to power; especially when he's the guy with all the solutions.

Due to the realm destabilizing and his help with the Lannister family, he was given lordship of Harrenhaal -- that gives him a foothold in the Riverlands. He was able to arrange a bethrothal to Lysa Arryn, giving him the Eyrie. He arranged for Joffrey's death so he could smuggle Sansa out of King's Landing and marry her off to the Boltons -- giving him an alliance with the Wardens of the North. Sansa is a trump card for him. No matter who controls Winterfell, there must always be a Stark in Winterfell, and Sansa will guarantee him power.

Through his destabilization, he has managed to gain control over half of the continent. He also has an alliance with the Tyrells, as they helped poison Joffrey, giving him potential power in the South. He still has an uneasy alliance with the Lannisters, giving him an alliance in the West. As of right now he has no control over Dorne. I would imagine his reemergence in King's Landing is related to the Lannisters v Tyrell struggle going on. I'm actually quite curious to see how he plans to gain a foothold in the South/West and start taking over the rest of the continent... I would imagine Lannisters/Tyrells going at each other isn't by accident.

[xRECKONERx]

Ned never liked him, and as long as Ned was in the picture, he would never be able to get close to Catelyn. His betrayal of Ned was an attempt to endear himself to the Lannisters while also having an opportunity to swoop in on Catelyn... but nobody planned for Joff to execute Ned. That was the wildcard, the variable nobody planned for, and it lead to a war, which lead to RW, which lead to the love of his life dying.

LF is making plays then reacting. He didn't have everything planned out. But his original reason for the Stark betrayal probably just comes down to Cat.

[Sudo_Nym]

Littlefinger's motivations are obviously to gain power for himself, but I think he choose the specific method he did to get revenge on the Starks. Catelyn spurned his advances, then shamed him when he tried dueling Brandon; Brandon's dead now, but Ned is a close enough stand-in. He wanted to revenge himself on them both. And then take Sansa as a creepy extension of his childhood crush.

[Brandi]

^Better explanations than I could give/10

[Iecerint]

Not accounting for Joffrey makes sense.