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oddmusic
Jeanne11
elusive: shos
Wanderer-nl
shos: Bellaphant, Ricastle, McMenno
BRantz
Derangement: , elusive
Drixx:
McMenno
Bellaphant: shos
Ricastle: oddmusic
Bins

[elusive]

So basically I asked your for a link to flubber's meta, thought you provided it since your link is unclickable told you I would follow up on it later and you try to vote me for what? Huge misrepresentation and at this point you are either blatant scum flailing like a fish on a sandy beach to deal with the fallout of an excellent vig shot or that's all I got here.

You are quite purposefully pretending to misunderstand and trying to derail a wagon on

derangement

who disappeared conveniently when flubber got NKed and who

I will flay alive...with interrogation...

when derangement returns.

Why would you even think I needed a link to anything in this game when I or others discussed the scummy interactions?

quote="In post 312, elusive"]

If you have meta that says differently then say so and link to it but I've also played with Flubber before.[/quote]

ok so I fully read this:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25010
and I have no idea what interactions you find scummy, please enlighten me. also, I don't see why keeping the discussion on mcmenno is bad since I did it too willingly; and I have no idea what any of you want with oddmusic in his 2 posts which were OK.

Shos I'll check out the game probably not tonight. It seems like flubber and derangment are working together.

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VOTE: elusive
Intriguing how you tell me he is scum by interactions
Then I read them and link to tgem
Then you say you'll read
>>that means you lied about it earlier

Well that was easy

Shos

1. Shos is trying to find any reason to vote me or Bella or anyone but has no concrete cases except for BSing and is purposefully pretending to lack comprehension skills
2. Not buying it, shos. So first you die and tonight Derangement gets a visit from whichever town has an interesting ability.

VOTE: shos

[shos]

whaaat?
you guys told me to read the interaction, which IS THE LINK I POSTED, so I did. That link is the combined ISO of Flubber, Derangement, and oddmusic. You told me to look at the interactions between them and say if these are not scum interactions. And I said, literally "I have noidea what interactions you find scummy". how could this POSSIBLY be a game with meta on flubber? also why the fuck would I meta the dead guy?

if the link is not clickable, why not copy paste to address line?

I think the fact that you *still* haven't opened the link to find out what's in it shows what you're actually trying to do here, and that is to throw mud at me as much as you can.

Also, if any lynch on me happens, I'd be glad if you would be the hammer vote, and not one of the middle ones.

[elusive]

I already said I didn't have time to click on the link? Why would I need you to link me to what I and others already discussed?

You don't see anything weird about their interactions? Well several people disagree.

Sure, I'll hammer you because you're either a scum flailing about like a fish on a sandy beach or you're truly anti-town. Your scum reads are basically anyone FOSing derangement so that in itself is bizarre.

[shos]

Because it collects all the posts of only the three people you're talking about, and because I literally asked you to tell me WHERE in these interactions you see scummy?

you repeatedly say that the interactions are bad, yet nobody told me WHERE. like post NUMBERS and stuff that I can see. I read that ISO and it didn't look bad to me, hence my question.

for you to hammer me you'll need to unvote, then I'll vote myself and you hammer

[shos]

Also I need belle to not unvote

[shos]

oh and we need two more votes... :/

[BRantz]

Okay caught up.

Pretty sure this is town shos, and McMenno seems to just be a troll in general.

I like Bella and Ricaste for town.

Jeanne is very confusing, and I kind of read her post about a lynch as a threat more than a warning, but that might just me be me?

@Shos: Why are you scum reading Bella?

@elusive: Why is shos disagreeing with you about the interactions between flubber and derangement and odd scummy?

[Bins]

Elusive is definitely town, there's no doubt about that.

is this meta or just a feeling you're getting?

[Ricastle]

It's primarily because of my exchange with Flubber. I also like all of her recent posts (from when she properly started playing).

BRantz, what's your read on Derangement?

[McMenno]

Because it collects all the posts of only the three people you're talking about, and because I literally asked you to tell me WHERE in these interactions you see scummy?

you repeatedly say that the interactions are bad, yet nobody told me WHERE. like post NUMBERS and stuff that I can see. I read that ISO and it didn't look bad to me, hence my question.

for you to hammer me you'll need to unvote, then I'll vote myself and you hammer

Why do you want elusive to hammer you?

[elusive]

BRantz, look at the sequence of him coming in right as a wagon began forming on derangement. Then if you look at how derangement was mirroring flubber early on, it looks suspicious coupled with his disappearing after flubber was vig'ed. Flubber tried to get Ricastle and whoever he was hinting too (derangement and odd likely?) to start moving the mcmenno wagon onto me.

Shos voted Bella without a case or any reasons and then after I started asking him for reasons he's been doing a massive NOU and WIFOM BS. No logical thought or rhyme or reason just him barking scum at anyone who points to derangement (Bella also voted him and that got shos his first scumread and then me, who next).

Shos is trying to claim supersaint or maybe jester, I don't know. I just know he's massively trying to detract from the look at derangement and oddmusic and its not working.

[BRantz]

My read on derangement has waffled a bunch, but at the moment it is null leaning scum. I like the case that people are making for the deflection by flubber, and his disappearance after flubber died.

[Bellaphant]

Shos is also giving the people voting him stick for not layout out exactly what is wrong with the flub/derangement actions when a) I basically have and b) it's Been summarised ny different people, when he couldn't even be arsed to set out his own case on me, despite multiple people prodding about it. It's bs.

[BRantz]

I agree Bella, but this is in my experience just the way shos is.

[Bellaphant]

? Really? What has he done that is making you town -read him, against... Everything else?

[BRantz]

It is mostly a meta read.

[Bellaphant]

...what kind of meta? I've read his most recent scum-game and I'm not really seeing it.

[BRantz]

My meta game for him is still ongoing where he was town so I can't quote it, but his trolling and being uncooperative are not tells for him town or scum it would appear (if you are saying he did the same things as scum in that game).

[BRantz]

That would move my read to null.

[Drixx]

Back from my V/LA. I've read through. I'm not sure what to draw from Flubbernugget's posting. Going to take another look and see if there's anything that stands out.

[shos]

page 8 is what originally made me scumread Belle; and now when I ISO him to find my earlier reason I notice that on post 251 he may have scumslipped.

Special rules

Everyone has a fucked up role
They are not alignment indicative, this game is smalltown
There are exactly 4 scums (3p team and one 3rd party)
There may be other 3rd parties

In that post Belle said we've got only 2 scum left now; I think this mistake comes from being in it, and counting two members left, only, forgetting that there's another third party scum. It's not a scumslip per-se but it has weight.

in post 256 he suspects Jeanne for scum for...uh...wat? Jeanne didn't post yet.

then there's his superfake posts in argument with me on page 10.

That should be it I think



pedit:
lol I started this post hours ago and continued it right now so there's a billion ninjas, soon will answer

[shos]

@Brantz, what's confusing about Jeane? her ISO is empty for every practical use. There's only the governor-type claim and....that's it.

*actively ignores McMenno*

@Elusive: I voted without reason at first in order to see response of the votee. I got totally ignored. Ask yourself if you'd 100% ignore a vote on you or not; and also I scumread belle waaay before she voted me, if you read closely. Meanwhile, you have been consistently avoiding my requests to show me WHERE is the scummy interaction.

[shos]

I'll just add that I think there is scum motivation here because I see multiple people calling derangement scum with the argument that him disappearing is relevant.

[Ricastle]

*actively ignores McMenno*

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