New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[SilverWolf]

I also do not like the drama between house and silver – I have a scum lean on silver right now.

There is no drama between House and myself. I'm actually quite surprised at how blown out of proportion this whole situation got and all the assumptions that were made. I have no idea why you feel the need to single me out but I don't like it.

[SilverWolf]

House, who the hell are you actually scumreading and why?

[House]

House, who the hell are you actually scumreading and why?

Aside from obvscum RC?

I don't even know anymore.

Lynch the trashscum and I'll sheep your reads because idgaf anymore.

[House]

Actually, I'm considering Cheetory scum, but I'm not quite ready to pull the trigger on that read just yet.

[SilverWolf]

House, who the hell are you actually scumreading and why?

Aside from obvscum RC?

I don't even know anymore.

Lynch the trashscum and I'll sheep your reads because idgaf anymore.

OK, but why is RC scum? I feel like you were confusing him and Drixx back there.

[House]

Yeah, I can vote there.

VOTE: Cheetory

[House]

House, who the hell are you actually scumreading and why?

Aside from obvscum RC?

I don't even know anymore.

Lynch the trashscum and I'll sheep your reads because idgaf anymore.

OK, but why is RC scum? I feel like you were confusing him and Drixx back there.

Try and keep up, will ya?

[House]

@SilverWolf: Read the interactions between RC and Cheetory as well as the way Cheeto is posting in defense of RC.

I don't see how their interactions are tvt. At LEAST one of them is scum, with a chance that RC is doing a distancing dance with Cheeto defending him to support his push on me (admittedly less likely, but possible).

Between the two, Cheetory actually seems scummier, although I disagree with RC's "neutral posts" push, which is why he remains a possibility as scum in my book - he had to fabricate an excuse to vote his scum buddy (if he's scum).

[SilverWolf]

OK House, But you are going to have to wait until after I'm off V/LA to seriously get into things.

[Cheetory6]

BBQ is cancelled because of bad weather. I am sad. Going to actually try rereading things.

House.
If your push on RC was anything short of garbage, I wouldn't say anything. But it was.
He made a joke.
People misconstrued it.
Once it was obvious that it was a joke that wasn't even meant to be mean you still continued to push it as though it wasn't obviously not malicious.
Is that me defending him or me saying that you're being a dufus right now?
Tell me all about it.

[House]

BBQ is cancelled because of bad weather. I am sad. Going to actually try rereading things.

House.
If your push on RC was anything short of garbage, I wouldn't say anything. But it was.
He made a joke.
People misconstrued it.
Once it was obvious that it was a joke that wasn't even meant to be mean you still continued to push it as though it wasn't obviously not malicious.
Is that me defending him or me saying that you're being a dufus right now?
Tell me all about it.

I already did, scroll up and replace Drixx w/ RC.

And you completely dismiss the fact that he fabricated a case on you by deliberately misrepresenting your play in a previous game as an excuse to push you.

Tell me all about it.

[Cheetory6]

Like, house.
These absolute statements based in nothing literally mean nothing.
It's like "Between Luca and Cheetory they have the same alignment"
What the fuck does that even mean?
Why are you coming to that conclusion? Just because you fail to understand why people are calling you on your bullshit right now?
I'm not even calling you scum. I'm just asking you to get your shit together and actually make a case that isn't provably absolutely wrong.

P-Edit:

I already did, scroll up and replace Drixx w/ RC.

Do you really want to play this game House? Do you really? Because I will play back and you won't enjoy it.

he made an ambiguous joke that could easily be taken out of context, then when it was he attacked the ones that did so.

Because you continually called him malicious when he wasn't being malicious and it eventually became obvious that it wasn't meant to be an insult and you still pretended it was?
Wow I can't imagine why someone would think you're scummy for that House! I really can't!

Hell, he feigned more outrage about the person I insulted than the person that I actually insulted!

Did he? Or did Drixx? Because I feel like you literally mixed them up and added their play together here.

And you completely dismiss the fact that he fabricated a case on you by deliberately misrepresenting your play in a previous game as an excuse to push you.

Because I know that town can make shit cases that don't make any sense on people too? People apply meta in shit ways all the time as town. I don't see why this makes RC clearly scummy to you.

[Cheetory6]

Was I hard-defending my scumbuddy Ozgin on D1 too?
Or am I just attacking cases that I perceive to be shit because I don't want another garbage mislynch being led by someone who's too confident in bullshit that's wrong?

[House]

RC's push on you wasn't a mistake. It was a fabrication.

You were not even close to being neutral in that game, by any stretch of the imagination.

He straight up pulled that shit out of his ass.

Yet you aren't riding his ass on that slimy push, when you are giving me shit because I went to school before they taught physics in grade school?

Fuck off, mate.

[Cheetory6]

The first half of that game I was admittedly kind of slow. I can see where he got that from.
I think he's being lazy and applying meta-tells where they don't make any sense.
I can see townRC doing that.
Hell, I'm being super fucking lazy right now and I'm town.
I would be being louder about RC being wrong about me if he was still trying to push it, but he's not. So what's the point?

[House]

I would be being louder about RC being wrong about me if he was still trying to push it, but he's not. So what's the point?

So you only care when it's your own neck on the line?

Yeah, that doesn't sound scummy at all.

PS: Last I checked, RC was still voting you, so that excuse falls flat on its face at every level.

[Cheetory6]

Is he? I thought he changed votes.
And nah. It's just any push that I perceive as being bad that's continuing being pushed I will be loud about it.
Like I was with Ozgin.
Bae you can think I'm scummy, but you're not going to logic a scumread onto me like this. It's just not gonna happen.

[House]

Is he? I thought he changed votes.
And nah. It's just any push that I perceive as being bad that's continuing being pushed I will be loud about it.
Like I was with Ozgin.
Bae you can think I'm scummy, but you're not going to logic a scumread onto me like this. It's just not gonna happen.

Ooh, you white knighted! I WAS SO WRONG!

[Cheetory6]

Yeah man.
There's absolutely no reason for me to actually be able to townhunt vs whiteknighting.
If you apply generic scumtells in such a broad manner you can make anything look scummy.
Context is important.
I thought Ozgin was town.
I think your push on RC is bad so I want it either to be better or for you to move on to something better.
You can pretend that even if I'm scum, that I wouldn't know who is for sure town or scum all you want, but it doesn't mean that I wasn't right about Ozgin.
What you could be arguing is that if I were scum I would have better odds of knowing that Ozgin was town, but even then that doesn't mean that my gutcall wouldn't have been right in that situation, it would just be less impressive.

[Cheetory6]

Basically, what I'm saying is, all of your pushes are surface level as fuck.
If you actually want to lynch me, make a fucking actually good case on me that isn't just the names of mafiascum wiki article pages.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey Cheeto, help us lynch the other faction please.

[Cheetory6]

Oh wait you are voting for me still.
Huh.
I mean, which faction am I hunting for that you think I'm not on?
Am I scum with Varsoon or am I hunting for Varsoon's buddies?

[Cheetory6]

Let me know and I can adjust my play accordingly.

[House]

Oh wait you are voting for me still.
Huh.

Yeah. He is. And you wonder why I'm calling shenanigans on your defense?

[Cheetory6]

I mean. I don't fact-check shit in general. This isn't really a new thing.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to actually try to be productive instead of engaging with the buffoonery here.