This mentality of "My vote doesn't mean anything unless it's on one of the current leaders" really unnerves me. It's like every player has essentially agreed to just join bandwagons. It's stifiling conversation and completely ruining any chances for pressure of players who haven't really been pressured yet.
On Adel: She's being hypocritical, she's being bitchy, she's being random, but I don't think she's being scummy. Essentially, she's playing an extremely insular game. Despite the one set of speculations she made (and was promptly shouted down over), she really does seem to be adhereing to her "no discussion of relationships" edict, and it's cramping her play. She's entirely restricted to examining the way in which other players interact with her, and I think that's why she keeps obviously baiting. I hope Ether's observations about lovers might actually get her posting useful content again.
On Darko: Ego trippin'. I don't care how many reactions you elicit by posting crap, not posting crap is far more helpful to the town. Now he just seems to have devolved into the epitome of the LAL target. Right now, he seems to be the voting beacon for the lazy and the non-committal, just a nice easy target.
On Erg0: Mainly lurking in plain sight and regurgitated content. Could be overwhelmed by/bored with the thread. Could not.
On Ether: Replacement of a AWOL player. Good coupla posts. Got me thinking on Xdaamno
On The Fonz: Replacing another AWOL. Solid analysis. Don't see any reason to suspect him, but he did seem to be playing the safe angles.
On Guardian: I certainly won't say that he's been playing a perfect game since Page 10 or so, but I haven't picked up any serious tells since the oft-mentioned fiasco. He participates openly and pursues many different angles. He's even trying to break this whole "only vote wagons" convention by voting SSF. Personally, I see the people who continue to bring up the stale case on him as fairly scummy, especially when they're using it as an after the fact justification for votes placed for more minor offenses. (Looking mainly at Adel, Sir T, and SSF there).
On Jalyn: Good luck reading.
On Jordan: Joining the consensus by saying he's been fairly scummy this entire game. His vote on the Darko wagon (along with Flea's) was probably the scummiest. I'm not sure if his removing it when questioned was scummy or not. I haven't really seen him take any positions that would get him in trouble. Darko is scummy, Guardian is scummy, Ryan is scummy for defending Guardian, Sarcastro is scummy for being certain (not popular, but not dangerous either), Darko is still scummy. He reads like a chronicle of the most popular trends that have come through the game. I hate to say it, but a certain bit of gut enters into this too.
FOS:
On Numenorean: It really seems like he's sniping. I haven't seen many posts of much substance from him. Early on, it was a bunch of player lists with minimal content, and now he just seems to be sitting around nit-picking for contradictions or hypocrisy rather than playing the game on a larger scale. I know he's capable of more.
On Pickem: Also sniping (or "beating shit"). Definitely "terse" moreso than "careful" (despite the fact that he apparently doesn't think careful=scummy despite the fact that he voted Adel for being careful in saying that careful=scummy (but refuses to admit that the vote wasn't purely on charges of hipocrisy)) describes his playstyle. Probably more useful for the reactions he elicits rather than the points he raises.
On Ryan: He was probably caught in the "defend the doomed townie" gambit in his interactions with Guardian and has been trying to recover ever since. I can see where Sir T was coming from when he meta-gamed him as an "aggressive" player, because many of his posts seem unpolished (and scummy as a result). Copy-pasting to attempt to "expose" Jordan was just asinine, but not exactly scum hunting for a lynch (might even be more scum-distancing, posting there-but-not-here is an easy accusation to make, but it doesn't hold much weight). Has seemed too defensive on the whole with very little mea culpa (more on that later).
FOS
On Sacred: Good but sparse analysis. Pretty pro-town (despite having Nekka-Lucifer's old avatar). Would like to see more on the whole. She only seems to hop in for a page or two out of every 5. To answer a long backlogged question: At the time, I didn't find any particular reason for you to be firmly pro-town, but I also didn't see you as scummy at all. Not that that has anything to do with how valid I thought Guardian's case was.
On Sarcastro: I think we've probably heard everything we're going to get out of him D1, and while I find his playstyle unorthodox and infuriatingly lazy, there's not much I can do about that.
On Sir Tornado: He has a reassuring tendancy to work through every situation logically, but I think he sometimes fiddles with the logic to come to a conclusion he likes. I remember him saying that he is very careful with his vote (I think in another game), and his post voting Guardian to "prevent a no-lynch" struck me as very odd. Now that we have clarified deadline rules and procured an extension, would you like to re-evaluate your vote?
On SomeStrangeFlea: I have not liked him through this entire game at all. At first I thought it was just because he posted noise naturally, but I see him generally as wagoning and toadying. Moreso than any other player, I see him either reciting the most popular opinion at the time or not saying anything at all (whilst typing a lot). He has been especially antagonistic to players under pressure, but allows others to make the actual cases for him, and it's incredibly scummy that he spouts the "It's a good lynch even if he comes up town" line.
Vote:SomeStrangeFlea
On Xdaamno: I really haven't like his play so far. I've already commented on that one list he made, and I think most people agree. Since then, he really hasn't said anything. I get the feeling that most of us are actually playing the game but Xdaamno is in the peanut gallery occasionally throwing out a comment or two. Lurking in plain sight, possibly with malicious intent. I considered voting for him, just to prove that I don't have to vote a wagon, but Ether has a point when she says he's too isolated to provide good info.
FOS
On YoghurtBandit: Read the thread past Page 10. Don't think you can get away with putting up a stale case on Darko and say you're still playing the game.
On Zindaras: Mostly MIA for the part of the thread I read. Personally, I think the discussion on whether or not she is a town leader is kind of moot. If she makes good cases, those cases have every right to lead the town. If somebody else makes good cases, that case should lead the town. Just because Zindy made a few good cases doesn't instantly make her mayor. Anybody who endorses that idea is just hiding behind it. To adress the mea culpa issue, admitting to a mistake isn't supposed to get people off the hook, I never expected anybody to say "Wow, NabNab really defended himself well in 333, he's off my scumlist for good." Improving your behavior and benefitting the town should get people off the hook. I just find that it's better for a person to admit to past wrongs before they go around trying to do right.
On the Game as it is Now: We have some breathing room on the deadline now, and I think that is a very good thing. We will have some more time to attempt to form a consensus, and people should be more free in voting who they see as scummy, not just who they think is most likely to get lynched (and that kind of behavior will no longer have to be tolerated). I would really like to see SSF or other people I FOS'd pressured past 3 or 4 votes, because that is not real pressure. Despite the fact that it's going to end up being controversial, I'm going to say that this game needs more bandwagon. We will never get anywhere if we refuse to vote people past L-7.
There are my opinions. Discuss!
Mod edit
Votecount:
Adel (2): ryan, pickemgenius
Darko (2): YoghurtBandit, JordanA24
Guardian (3): Adel, somestrangeflea, Sir Tornado
Sarcastro (1): Xdaamno
JordanA24 (3): Sarcastro, Erg0, Ether
ryan (2): The Fonz, Numenorean7
somestrangeflea (2): Guardian, NabakovNabakov
Not voting (4): darko, Zindaras, Sacred, Jalyn
With 19 alive, it's 10 to lynch. At deadline, the one with the most votes is lynched.
Votecount:
Adel (2): ryan, pickemgenius
Darko (2): YoghurtBandit, JordanA24
Guardian (3): Adel, somestrangeflea, Sir Tornado
Sarcastro (1): Xdaamno
JordanA24 (3): Sarcastro, Erg0, Ether
ryan (2): The Fonz, Numenorean7
somestrangeflea (2): Guardian, NabakovNabakov
Not voting (4): darko, Zindaras, Sacred, Jalyn
With 19 alive, it's 10 to lynch. At deadline, the one with the most votes is lynched.
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. In seriousness, again, I like how his scum list mirrors mine, and most of all I like his reasons for most of the players. 
. Ether, would you like to address this again?
