@zor: But seriously, should those surveys have been sent out already?
Also, our team PT is staying private, so I'll just reiterate here that the replace outs were bullshit, and forcing me/GreyICE into the same game because his team was flaky is also massive amounts of bullshit.
The mini theme getting rerolled changed things pretty significantly too
I think Kats would have played way better as scum there and anyone looking back at Day 1 after the reroll I really think should have seen that shos and LLD were scum together after LLD's terrible switch off of him
Also you guys lynched all of my teammates and they were all town
Like, it's kind of sad that in the four games I was following there was at best one good scum game played (Titus) and one okay one (whoever the last remaining scum is in the normal, though I feel 99% sure it's sthar, I cleared Egg after Day 1)
Ika was pushing for reg flashlynch the entire lylo phase until unconvinced him to stay on bbt/ces.
If you really want to play a blame game direct it to me.
but don't you fucking dare blame my teammate for the lost when he was certainly not the cause of the loss.
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WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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In post 226, xRECKONERx wrote:@zor: But seriously, should those surveys have been sent out already?
Also, our team PT is staying private, so I'll just reiterate here that the replace outs were bullshit, and forcing me/GreyICE into the same game because his team was flaky is also massive amounts of bullshit.
Agreeing.
Don't know what history you and grey had, but replacements system is bullshit yeah. I think it should be changed. Vezok's suggested a BAM rule set(?)
mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included
In post 226, xRECKONERx wrote:@zor: But seriously, should those surveys have been sent out already?
that's a good question. I was planning on doing them after all games have completed, but in hindsight, doing it as each finished probably would have been better.
Replacements are a tricky question. The issue is that in a game with 64 players you're simply going to have a lot of replacements, and doing it in a way that gives teams some control is in keeping with the team mafia theme. We could pretend that replacements should never happen, but that would simply degrade the games.
yeah it's pretty tricky. The problem is that the team can choose their best possible replacement suitable for the game state and alignment. So they will pick the best man for the (town) job.
As for scum, due to the inherently different agenda, replacements don't work the same way for them... In fact a replacement will more often than not hinder them (Marquis -> former fish, LLD -> greyice)
Like, I lost the nightless ultimately because of a fatal mistake that I made, but certainly the replacements + a couple of other things made the game increasingly more difficult which I did my best to overcome.
For example, lynchbait ----> on town is a very real scenario that examples I think has happened in all of the town wins in TM2015, even including my own replacement into twin trap which may not have been the most accurate of scum hunting, but nonetheless a nail in the coffin for ETL
In post 234, Cephrir wrote:mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included
Mod Error would've been about 70% easier if Wisdom had taken his meds and just calmed the fuck down.
Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.
In post 206, Quilford wrote:Also Metal Sonic making 331 posts in 3 days in Twin Trap and being absolutely wrong in pretty much all of them >__>
I was up for lynching you -> ETL so not that wrong? I still would have won the game.
Sure. And I guess all those peeps at Jonestown who had doubts about the Kool-Aid felt really vindicated after drinking it
Well sorry bro. Like I said, I thought you were an evil scum mastermind. Be complimented. I overestimated your scum game.
I was on the right track with lynching ETL after you and becoming obvtown, so you can say that I was wrong and infuriating and all that but by no means was my play bad and you should never try to sell it that way ?_?
Espeonage was buisy with uni so :/
My reads in all the other games were a lot more acurate than in my own. I had shos/TierShift nailed straight away. Once I finished catching up in the large I had AD correct as well.
Also.
MS I WAS RIGHT DAMMIT.
I need to trust myself more, the VN scum team made me doubt myself.
In post 234, Cephrir wrote:mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included
Mod Error would've been about 70% easier if Wisdom had taken his meds and just calmed the fuck down.
Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.
You had the scum fucking up their fake claims to work with. Tier shift was inactive --> scum typically don't want to replace (see me bitching about replacements here) and then grey was also inactive ---> how did you catch him after he trackers confirmed to visit shos was shocking
In post 243, wgeurts wrote:Espeonage was buisy with uni so :/
My reads in all the other games were a lot more acurate than in my own. I had shos/TierShift nailed straight away. Once I finished catching up in the large I had AD correct as well.
Also.
MS I WAS RIGHT DAMMIT.
I need to trust myself more, the VN scum team made me doubt myself.
In post 234, Cephrir wrote:mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included
Mod Error would've been about 70% easier if Wisdom had taken his meds and just calmed the fuck down.
Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.
We should have had a perfect town win, except we couldn't get along.