It's the Team Mafia Tea Party (Dead Thread)

[xRECKONERx]

the revolving slot with mollie and eddie in nightless was bad too but Grey and ABR's comments towards her were absolutely unacceptable. ABR's were bad enough that if I were actually modding that game I would instantly force-replace ABR, that was incredibly personal and was meant to be hurtful.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[vezokpiraka]

Another problem was when empire and zar switched games.

I knew for a fact empire wouldn't have gone from scum to scum. That led me to hard defend empire and singer.

[Zar]

I knew for a fact empire wouldn't have gone from scum to scum

We did think about swapping Empire and Regfan for a little though... so that's not necessarily true.

[AngryPidgeon]

I knew for a fact empire wouldn't have gone from scum to scum.

Ya I dont see why this would ever be true.

[Kagami]

Regardless of specifics, I think it's pretty clear that game swapping compromises the integrity of the games. Replacements do as well, although less severely.

Point deductions for doing so seem pretty reasonable to me. If teams refuse to replace flakes for fear of a penalty, so be it.

[Katsuki]

CAN WE RUN TEAM MAFIA WITH BaM RULESET NEXT TIME? Replacements for emergencies should be acceptable but flaking in Team Mafia is ridiculous.

ALSO MOD ERROR WAS AN EASY GAME THAT WAS NEEDLESSLY DRAWN OUT TO 5 DAYS

[shos]

How bout make just more games? Like, ecah player plays 2 games at once? This would make it more likely that one team only wins by points. Replacing teammates can just be not allowed - unless someone needs to completely replace out of TEAM MAFIA.

[Zar]

I like the idea of team mafia representing the games that are played throughout MS (One Large Theme, a Normal, an Open, a Micro and [whatever else is on fashionable trend at the time]; I like the Mini Theme because well, Mini Themes are a thing too). I'm satisfied with the representations...

idk if it should be factored that the inherent town-sidedness of TEAM MAFIA should imply that as a result, setups should lean a bit towards being scumsided (if not too much).

[Gammagooey]

katsuki why is your avatar a bird now?

[Katsuki]

I really liked the split for Team Mafia I, with PYP, WF, Normal and Theme. Nightless is inherently townsided (and it seems like a lot of other teams threw tokens at it too), but it's worth including if run with BaM ruleset. I feel those 5 are pretty balanced.

I am still an advocate for restricting the number of teams participating for the sake of upholding quality. I think we saw one of the problems with trying to cater towards maximizing inclusion, which lead to the widespread replacement problem faced. Having 4/5 games, with the majority being 13P (5th game being 16P to make numbers work) seems optimal.

Randomized alignments is still nice, where you have all the role PMs sent out, then allot team members to the games.

[Katsuki]

katsuki why is your avatar a bird now?

ether made me

[Save The Dragons]

I was soooooooo sure Jason was scum when I died I just couldn't believe it. Especially after the "well, maybe he RB'd Jason" I was gobsmacked after that argument.

I think we did pretty well the first few days though so it's still possible we'll pull ahead. I have hope!

[mastin2]

Teams with 100% winrate:

Young and Beautiful
Indecisive
The Cockettes
If town loses the normal, Young & Beautiful win.
If town wins the normal, it's us or Indecisive.

Top three, heck yeah!

[mastin2]

(But really we're gonna be second in all probability because Mara died too early for her to be considered noteworthy, people undervalue pie's importance, and people have every reason to vote me badly, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...yeah.)

[mastin2]

Huh. I somehow thought Y&B was tied to the normal game. Well, that makes it a bit more interesting, I guess.

...Aaaaaaaand we're third without question. (See above bit about members of our team. I forgot notty, but people undervalue notty's contributions too thanks to how much he struggled with activity.) Because nobody's gonna vote us higher than the other two. (Darn. Was hoping for runner-up. )

[mastin2]

also also
hito's flavor is the best you guys

Indeed. I think it's safe to say the best thing to come from Team Mafia is not one but TWO strong modded flavor games, with excellent flavor and roles and whatnot.

[mastin2]

Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.

shos was my fault, but I did pin Tier and LLD and was quite literally screaming at notty trying to get him to push them as an active force in the game rather than a passive one. (It's quite frustrating to want to be in two games at once.)

[Kagami]

I am still an advocate for restricting the number of teams participating for the sake of upholding quality.

This might be the best solution. I would also do the opposite of what was done this time around: teams that won in the past should certainly not get preference. If anything, prior winners should be part of the design/modding team.

[Brian Skies]

I enjoyed Magua's flavor the most. I also had more issues with Reck's posting almost none with GreyICE's. But I've generally just assumed that's how Reck plays.

Thanks for the invitation to replace into Team Mafia. I enjoyed it even though the heavy and rushed analysis I was forced to do nearly burned me out.

[mastin2]

Also I really appreciate the input mastin brought to my game via ns. She was accurate on both grey and Tier, and if it weren't for that push on Tier I am not sure if I would have ultimately agreed with the wagon on him that resulted in his crappy fakeclaim.

I'm glad it actually had an in-game effect. <3

I was worried it had gone to waste the entire time. (In hindsight, though, notty mighta done better in my game and me in his. He'd have just as much lurking to do, but given as how I didn't really contribute anything to that win other than (1) relaying pie's thoughts and (2) pushing DV as scum the entire game, he certainly couldn't have done WORSE than I did.)

[mastin2]

Ya'll are so lucky singer shot me. If that shot missed, I was taking people downtown.

You're forgetting who was in there, AP.

I actually knew singer was shooting you. I was disappointed, though, because I knew that regardless of your alignment, because UT hammered you before you could speak and singer was obviously gonna shoot you, that I wouldn't be able to read ya.

[Nexus]

LAST DAY GET HYPE

[Magua]

Man, I /still/ can't believe you put a Ninja into that setup, Nexus.

[Nexus]

I can't believe I took setup design advice from zoraster.

[AngryPidgeon]

You're forgetting who was in there, AP.

I was so ready this game. I was 100% operating on pure vengeance and willpower.

Exceeding personal records for being voteproof.

I'm not even gonna go into the battle plan I had going on. You were on my mind and normally I am pretty terrified of you as scum, but this time would have been different