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[Guardian]

The last thing I need if UA comes up scum is being highly suspect , so I might as well switch my vote now instead of later, as planned.

I don't think a Yos lynch is going to happen (:?), I don't think a Kinetic lynch is going to happen (), and I don't think a Spambot lynch is going to happen (:|).

UA is the best of my options.

unvote: Kinetic vote: UltimaAvalon

. We need a lynch *this hour* if we are to have a chance of wining. Even if it is a mislynch, we tried. If we *don't* get a lynch this hour, someone gets NKed and we lose no matter what.

I don't think UltimaAvalon is the ideal choice, and may in fact be the wrong choice; I think I've made that clear. But, I don't think I'm going to be able to persuade PJ and Ibby to change their minds and lynch Kinetic, and we need their votes for a lynch (for a scum-lynch, anyways), so I hope they are right in their read of UA.


PJ, Ibby, Albert, ANY suggestions on what I be doing re: this game right now, or are you just happy with me sitting here?

And

Albert

, be do sure to protect someone you think is a good NK, you with lots of suspicion on you being dead dead is much better than PJ or Ibby being dead with almost 0 suspicion on them.

[petroleumjelly]

And as much as I hate to triple post, I should make this clear:

1.) If Guardian is scum, I think UltimaAvalon is scum. His characterization of the wagon looks completely wrong - he is trying to imply everybody

not

voting Guardian is therefore scum with Guardian. This is the perfect position to take as scum (and a

terrible

position to take as town). In this manner, if he successfully buses Guardian, he will have set himself up with town targets to pursue for the next lynch.

Also, Guardian's odd refusal to vote for UA - when up until this point he has been willing to vote anybody who is not himself - makes perfect sense as a scum connection.

2.) If Guardian is town, I

still

think UA is scum. His posts feel like a vampire hovering a virgin neck, except he has to convince the neck to rise

just a little higher

before he can bite it.

Scum scum scummity scum.

[petroleumjelly]

Response to Guardian:

I honestly don't care about your preference of who

you

want to lynch. You are still quite possible to be scum from my perspective, so I have no qualms about ignoring your wishes.

[Guardian]

Hm. Happy I beat you to that post, PJ. Maybe you will actually read my post and respond to my question of you Ibby and Albert, as Ibby has failed to do .

[Guardian]

I honestly don't care about your preference of who

you

want to lynch. You are still quite possible to be scum from my perspective, so I have no qualms about ignoring your wishes.

That's understandable, but I am

not

scum and Kinetic

is

scum, so what can I do to help you see that?

Should I continue my scum-hunting re-read? My "I am innocent" re-read? Something else?

I have asked people for input on this like 20 times, maybe you will finally respond....

[petroleumjelly]

If you're talking about this question:

PJ, Ibby, Albert, ANY suggestions on what I be doing re: this game right now, or are you just happy with me sitting here?

Then

FoS: Guardian

. You just posted it - Ibby and Albert can't have "failed" to answer it if they haven't been around during the last

six minutes

to answer it. I pretty much haven't been reading your posts in general because it's all spam from my perspective, and I'm sure it boils down to "Please God don't lynch me!".

But I won't answer that question - it's not my job to tell you how to play, unless I

make

it my job.

[Guardian]

PJ, I asked

more than twenty four real life hours ago

in this post as soon as it became clear Albert Ibby and you are town. I have rephrased and re-asked the question multiple times since then. You, Ibby, and Albert have posted multiple times since then with no response.

FoSing me for saying that I am frustrated that there has been no response

is bullshit

.


Not answering is somewhat annoying, since I really do want advice, and not giving it to me doesn't help out at all, but I can at least understand your not wanting to answer it....

However, with you not answering it, I am quite confused as to what to do -- I keep trying different things and all I get is "eh, that isn't helping, you still look "scummy" ".

[petroleumjelly]

Why should I give somebody who I think might be scum advice on how to not look scummy?

That's

bullshit.

And as I

just said

, I haven't been reading your posts because

to me

they are just an annoyance at the moment, so I have

not

noted whether or not you have asked that question before.

[Guardian]

Why should I give somebody who I think might be scum advice on how to not look scummy?

That's

bullshit.

Because I am town? I don't know. I said above that I can understand your reasons for not wanting to give me advice, but look at it from my perspective.

I don't really know what to do to convince you guys of the truth, and all my efforts are met with "eh, you are being scummy". Or now, even worse, "eh, you have been so annoying that I am not even reading your posts." What am I supposed to do here?

And as I

just said

, I haven't been reading your posts because

to me

they are just an annoyance at the moment, so I have

not

noted whether or not you have asked that question before.

Then WHY FOS ME FOR NOT HAVING ASKED SOMETHING ALREADY IF YOU DIDN'T READ THE POSTS I CLAIMED TO ASK IT IN?

You FOS'd me assuming I hadn't been asking -- and then say "oh, well, I haven't been reading how can you expect me to have good reasons for my FOS, and GOD Guardian, I JUST said I haven't been reading." You must admit that

that

is equally bullshit -- if you are not going to freaking

read my posts

how can you FOS me for them.

Also, how am I going to convince you of anything?

SHORT summary of what my posts have included besides my request for advice:

• Position logic, including that you should be switched to FBI
  
• Alignment logic assuming that I am town
  
• Advice to Albert to use the bodyguard functionality so that he isn't alive as lynchbait
  
• PBPA of myself addressing anything I thought was scummy to try and convince you I'm town.
  
• A good measure of "please god don't lynch me -- and here's WHY".

[petroleumjelly]

Last response. You're just wasting my time at this point.

I don't care what you do. I will probably find your posts an annoyance for the remainder of the game (however long that is), because I've had to read 60-something pages of them and they all read to me "I am town", "I am town", "I am town", and as I have previously mentioned, I find that annoying. The fact that you made a post after that repeating that very phrase multiple times has pretty much super-glued yourself to my "annoying vision".

I don't

care

about your perspective right now. I care about

my

perspective. If you're town, I have no interest in telling you how to not look scummy - that's something best saved for after-game discussion. If you're scum (which is certainly a possibility), I have absolutely no reason to tell you anything.

If you've asked the question

before

the one I FoS'd you for, then the FoS clearly does not carry over. It's that simple.

In fact, I'm just going to make an ultimatum. If you mention the word "bullshit" or any equivalent of the word and relate it to my play, I will lynch you on principle.

[Guardian]

Last response. You're just wasting my time at this point.

OK. This will be my last response to you then.

I don't care what you do.

That's pretty sweet. Unless Yos (who I assume is town since we are lynching UA today...), Albert, and Ibby have objections, which I really hope they don't, the remainder of my posts are going to be votes. Literally. Unless you specifically request that I post some content, with my name bolded, I am done with this game.

This is the only way you are going to get me to do anything additional:

Guardian:

please do such and such.

I will probably find your posts an annoyance for the remainder of the game (however long that is), because I've had to read 60-something pages of them and they all read to me "I am town", "I am town", "I am town", and as I have previously mentioned, I find that annoying. The fact that you made a post after that repeating that very phrase multiple times has pretty much super-glued yourself to my "annoying vision".

OK.

I don't

care

about your perspective right now. I care about

my

perspective.

Great. I'll take the same stance, and not try and work together with you guys to win this. I will just vote based on the information I have, and not try and get any information anyone else has, nor try and share the information I have.

If you're town, I have no interest in telling you how to not look scummy - that's something best saved for after-game discussion.

Then I am interested in the post-game. Eh, not really actually. I know how to look town, just I am past the point of no return in this game, it seems.

If you're scum (which is certainly a possibility), I have absolutely no reason to tell you anything.

Irrelevant, but OK.

If you've asked the question

before

the one I FoS'd you for, then the FoS clearly does not carry over. It's that simple.

I don't see how it was clear, at all, but OK.

In fact, I'm just going to make an ultimatum. If you mention the word "bullshit" or any equivalent of the word and relate it to my play, I will lynch you on principle.

OK.

Bye.

[ibaesha]

Ooo... PJ said a bad word. Shame on you, Guardian, for making PJ curse.

Guardian: I didn't answer your question because: I went to bed, but I don't know what you should do and like PJ said, it's not my job to help you convince me you're town. Just play, man. At any rate, I'm not voting you, I'm on the fence about you (as I have been), so I'm not a person that needs convincing -right now-. PJ's post 1701 sums up my own thoughts pretty well. In addition, your pressuring me and PJ to vote Kinetic over UA and your attempt at defending UA is something I do find fairly suspicious.

I agree with PJ wholeheartedly about UA and think he's a scumbag needing to die. Although I think I already said that before I went to bed last night. Since PJ said most of what I was already thinking, I have only to add:

Everything is scummy, isn't it Ibs? Over defending oneself is scummy, not defending enough is scummy, not being concerned about whether oneself will die is scummy, whining and crying and pleading town to believe one is scummy...

Don't think I ever said overdefending oneself is scummy. I doubt I would ever say that because I tend to be the type to overdefend myself -as town-. Not defending oneself while under pressure is scummy, yes. See below for the next part, and as for the last part I don't necessarily find whining, crying, and pleading town 'scummy' because it's something both town and scum do so to me it's not something that's a good indicator of alignment.

It's not that I'm worried about being quicklynched or not, its that I really don't care if I'm lynched at all or not

In a lylo situation, anyone town better damn well care if they're lynched. This statement is a statement I can only see scum making. The scum aren't in lylo, but the town is.

[petroleumjelly]

Seriously <3 Ibs. Where have you been all my life?

[ibaesha]

Usually at your throat, but today we're on the same page. Thank the moon and stars. <3

[UltimaAvalon]

Oh no, now Guardian is voting me for the same reasons I voted FA. But we remember how well that worked out, don't we?

I agree with PJ wholeheartedly about UA and think he's a scumbag needing to die.

DIESUCKDIE.

Ok

Unvote

Vote: UltimaAvalon

Come and get me

[ibaesha]

If I wasn't voting you already, I'd vote you on principle. There are very few and rare cases in which it's feasible for someone town to participate in their own lynch. And lylo is definately not one of them. Therefore, you look even scummier (if that was possible).

'Come and get me'

Letting your buddies know it's time to bus you?

[UltimaAvalon]

sunnavabitch, I miscounted

Unvote: UltimaAvalon

Vote: Guardian

All right, now I really don't care. Yall can kill me now if yall want. Let me know how it goes

Guardian and Albert are still scum

[ibaesha]

[petroleumjelly]

"Look, mumsy, it's a squirming scum!"
"Keep walking and don't make eye contact."

[ibaesha]

So, in the next hour or so my husband will be home and will want to be using the computer. I may or may not make it back before hour 11 ends. However, I am confident where my vote is and don't see any possible way I could be convinced to change it.

[Guardian]

Confirm Vote: UltimaAvalon

.

[Kinetic]

Vote:UltimaAvalon

[Spambot]

I can go this way too. I hope the scum team is Guardian, UA, and Albert here.

Vote: UltimateAvalon

[petroleumjelly]

Unvote: UltimaAvalon

[petroleumjelly]

Fudge.