You Could Be Anyone III GAME OVER

[inte]

The lack of a VC right before massive exploded makes it clear that it was not a lynch-triggered ability.

uuhhh false

[inte]

thats speculation

[Boonskiies]

woop woop. the boonie with the conf town being,

[Boonskiies]

must be my scum day or something, cuz yeedoggie!

[TierShift]

are you kidding hated claims first post

Never played with one so didn't know that. So you treat it like miller then???

Uh, there is no real concensus on miller claims. But there is on hated claims. Why did you wait to claim and why do you feel that it's 'safe' to do with 4 conftowns?

The lack of a VC right before massive exploded makes it clear that it was not a lynch-triggered ability.

uuhhh false

thats speculation

Upon closer inspection, the flavour ("as you're about to trail massive to the nooses") makes it likely it's lynch-triggered.

I still think that gives no townpoints to SC. What are the main points against fresh and PereV?

[StrangerCoug]

Anyway I never played this sort of role before so I been thinking if I should announce it or not and with 4 confirmed town I feel safe to announce it.I'm a negative utility role. I'm a hated townie. So yeah that's probably to balance the sensor role.

I honestly don't know what to do with the role so I been waiting all game as to when to announce it.

I buy this.

The wagons were pretty even. It was very much possible that massive would be hammered before bombing, but it was also very much possible he would not be lynched. As a result, both bombing and not bombing were pretty dangerous courses of action. Declaring a hammer long before doing it gave massive a chance to bomb before dying. That is why a buddy WITHOUT daytalk would want to do this. Declaring a hammer long before doing it also might deter others from hammering. That is why both a buddy with AND without daytalk would want to do this.

I'm not saying you're scum for it, but definitely does not score townpoints.

OK, this makes better sense. The point I was trying to make anyway that the bombing cannot be used by itself to determine my alignment.

[inte]

I still think that gives no townpoints to SC. What are the main points against fresh and PereV?

dey scummy

[TierShift]

Hi fresh please talk to me about who you think is scum!

[inte]

or zzzx. hes been a loser this whole game

[Fresh]

Hi fresh please talk to me about who you think is scum!

When I stated a lynch pool awhile ago, I said Boon, RMM (you), Elyse, Jaqen, and TSO. I was wrong about one, right about two, and clearly wrong about the other two as you and Boon are town.

I also stated before that SC would have my vote once we found the three scum on the Yakko wagon. Most people are assuming there are two scum left and there's been no dispute to that.

So the non-conf are SC, inte, myself, Garmr, PV, and ZZZX

ZZZX is playing no better than Boon but if Boon isn't scum then I don't have a lot of ground to stand on with ZZZX.

I need to ISO inte, Garmr, and PV to decide which one I think is more scum.

[ZZZX]

boon

I can see your point hence cwagons etc but having two scum wagons isnt something that really never happened.

[Klingoncelt]

Anyway I never played this sort of role before so I been thinking if I should announce it or not and with 4 confirmed town I feel safe to announce it.I'm a negative utility role. I'm a hated townie. So yeah that's probably to balance the sensor role.

I honestly don't know what to do with the role so I been waiting all game as to when to announce it.

I thought you were Town already. Something to do with Monkey.

My list of lynchees:

StrangerCoug (remember how badly he wanted to lynch Boon? Let's ISO Coug and see what other scummy things he said.) Or just lynch him.

Inte - hasn't made a single useful post all game.

Fresh - Not liking him as Town.

ZZZX - a long shot, but possible.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh - my vote got stolen.

Please, whoever took it, use it against Stranger Coug.

[StrangerCoug]

StrangerCoug (remember how badly he wanted to lynch Boon? Let's ISO Coug and see what other scummy things he said.) Or just lynch him.

Explain how my push of Boon was scummy.

[Klingoncelt]

StrangerCoug (remember how badly he wanted to lynch Boon? Let's ISO Coug and see what other scummy things he said.) Or just lynch him.

Explain how my push of Boon was scummy.

It was a push on Boon.

Scummy.

[StrangerCoug]

It was a push on Boon.

Scummy.

I understand you are confirmed town, but you cannot seriously expect anyone to sheep you just because I pushed someone else now confirmed town when he wasn't at the time. The only person in your suspect list that wasn't voting Boonskiies when massive blew himself up is inte, so I'd like to know why I've been singled out.

[Klingoncelt]

It was a push on Boon.

Scummy.

I understand you are confirmed town, but you cannot seriously expect anyone to sheep you just because I pushed someone else now confirmed town when he wasn't at the time. The only person in your suspect list that wasn't voting Boonskiies when massive blew himself up is inte, so I'd like to know why I've been singled out.

For most of the game I was thinking that either you're Scum or Boons is. One or the other. Boons isn't, so...

[Garmr]

are you kidding hated claims first post

Never played with one so didn't know that. So you treat it like miller then???

Uh, there is no real concensus on miller claims. But there is on hated claims. Why did you wait to claim and why do you feel that it's 'safe' to do with 4 conftowns?

Because I feel like we are going to win. With 4 confirmed town how couldn't we.

[TierShift]

Fresh, please explain why you want to lynch sc.

boon

I can see your point hence cwagons etc but having two scum wagons isnt something that really never happened.

Wtf are you jabbering about?

Because I feel like we are going to win. With 4 confirmed town how couldn't we.

Okay, but why wasn't it safe before?

[Garmr]

To be honest I have never been lynched day 1 and I want to keep that record. Tier why is this relevant?

[TierShift]

I want to understand your train of thought. It doesn't make sense for scum to randomly claim hated on day 4, but neither does it for a hated townie to wait till day 4.

Did you think you would actually have been lynched if you had claimed first post?

[Garmr]

Probably I see how some people treat millers anyway at the moment I'm contemplating who is the last scum member is.

[TierShift]

Spoiler: updated wagon colouring

Official Vote Count

StrangerCoug

(5):

DeltaWave

, Fresh,

Ankamius

,

Boonskiies

,

Monkeyman576

Boonskiies

(3):

Elyse

,

T S O

, StrangerCoug

Elyse

(2):

Aunt Jemina

,

I am innocent

Sky_Paladin

(2):

kthxbye

, PeregrineV

I am innocent

(1):

massive

alivechihiro

(1):

Jaqen Hghar

T S O

(1): inte

Klingoncelt

(1): ZZZX

ZZZX

(1):

Klingoncelt

Jaqen Hghar

(1):

alivechihiro

Ankamius

(1): Garmr

Monkeyman576

(1):

hi im Yakko

Not Voting

(1):

Sky_Paladin

Day 1 Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-06 15:41:56)
With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Official Vote Count

Boonskiies

(6):

Elyse

,

T S O

, StrangerCoug,

Aunt Jemina

,

Ankamius

,

Monkeyman576

alivechihiro

(2):

Jaqen Hghar

,

Sky_Paladin

Jaqen Hghar

(2):

alivechihiro

,

DeltaWave

Monkeyman576

(2):

hi im Yakko

,

Boonskiies

I am innocent

(1):

massive

T S O

(1): inte

Klingoncelt

(1): ZZZX

ZZZX

(1):

Klingoncelt

StrangerCoug

(1): Fresh

Ankamius

(1): Garmr

Elyse

(1):

I am innocent

Sky_Paladin

(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting

(1):

kthxbye

Day 1 Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-06 15:41:56)
With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Mod note - With team mafia running right now, I know priorities will lie away from this game for those involved. I am relaxing the prod rules to 4 days instead of 3. However, htis is not an excuse to slack if the game does not move at least a full page (25 posts) in a 24 hour period I will send a mass activity prod.

Official Vote Count

hi im Yakko

(11):

Klingoncelt

,

T S O

,

alivechihiro

,

Monkeyman576

,

Jaqen Hghar

,

Boonskiies

,

Elyse

,

massive

,

DeltaWave

,

Sky_Paladin

,

kthxbye

StrangerCoug

(4): Fresh, Garmr,

I am innocent

,

Ankamius

Boonskiies

(2): StrangerCoug,

Aunt Jemina

T S O

(1): inte

Klingoncelt

(1): ZZZX

Monkeyman576

(1):

hi im Yakko

Sky_Paladin

(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Official Vote Count

T S O

(7):

Sky_Paladin

,

kthxbye

,

alivechihiro

,

Elyse

, Fresh, StrangerCoug, ZZZX

alivechihiro

(3):

Jaqen Hghar

,

Ankamius

, inte

StrangerCoug

(2):

T S O

,

Monkeyman576

Elyse

(2):

Aunt Jemina

, Garmr

kthxbye

(1):

DeltaWave

DeltaWave

(1):

massive

Not Voting

(3):

Klingoncelt

,

Boonskiies

, PeregrineV

Day 2 Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-27 16:14:03)

With 19 alive, it takes 11 to lynch

VOTE:

alivechihiro

3 votes now

No only 2. Mod didn't count Jaqen's. Dunno if it was because he didn't unvote first or mod didn't count it.

Sorry, I missed the vote at the time. Prods will go out at Midnight

Official Vote Count

T S O

(9):

Elyse

, ZZZX, PeregrineV, StrangerCoug,

Sky_Paladin

, Fresh,

rationalmadman

,

massive

,

Jaqen Hghar

Elyse

(7):

Aunt Jemina

, Garmr,

Klingoncelt

,

kthxbye

,

Monkeyman576

,

Boonskiies

,

Ankamius

kthxbye

(1):

DeltaWave

Klingoncelt

(1): inte

PeregrineV

(1):

T S O

Not Voting

(0):

None.

NO LYNCH HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

Night actions deadline in

night 2 deadline

(expired on 2015-04-30 16:16:47)

Official Vote Count

kthxbye

(7):

Sky_Paladin

,

Jaqen Hghar

, StrangerCoug,

Elyse

,

Boonskiies

,

Klingoncelt

,

Monkeyman576

Elyse

(4): Garmr,

kthxbye

,

T S O

, inte

Klingoncelt

(1):

massive

ZZZX

(1):

rationalmadman

rationalmadman

(1):

Ankamius

Not Voting

(4): PeregrineV,

DeltaWave

, ZZZX, Fresh

Day 3 Deadline

(expired on 2015-05-16 19:32:29)
with 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch

Official Vote Count

Elyse

(6): Garmr,

Boonskiies

, StrangerCoug, inte,

T S O

,

kthxbye

rationalmadman

(5):

Ankamius

, PeregrineV, Fresh,

Jaqen Hghar

,

TheWayItEnds

Klingoncelt

(2):

massive

,

rationalmadman

T S O

(2):

Sky_Paladin

,

Elyse

StrangerCoug

(1):

Monkeyman576

massive

(1):

Klingoncelt

Not Voting

(1): ZZZX

V/LA

(1):

kthxbye

(14th)

Day 3 Deadline

(expired on 2015-05-16 19:32:29)
with 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch

Official Vote Count

Elyse

(10): Garmr,

Boonskiies

, StrangerCoug, inte,

T S O

,

kthxbye

,

Klingoncelt

,

Monkeyman576

, Fresh,

Jaqen Hghar

rationalmadman

(3):

Ankamius

, PeregrineV,

TheWayItEnds

Klingoncelt

(2):

massive

,

rationalmadman

T S O

(2):

Sky_Paladin

,

Elyse

PeregrineV

(1): ZZZX

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Official Vote Count

Jaqen Hghar

(8): Garmr, Fresh, inte, StrangerCoug,

Monkeyman576

,

Klingoncelt

,

T S O

,

Sky_Paladin

massive

(1):

Jaqen Hghar

Not Voting

(6):

TheWayItEnds

, ZZZX, PeregrineV,

massive

,

rationalmadman

,

Boonskiies

Official Vote Count

massive

(6):

Boonskiies

,

Klingoncelt

,

Sky_Paladin

, inte, Garmr,

TierShift

Boonskiies

(6): StrangerCoug, ZZZX,

massive

, Fresh, PeregrineV,

TheWayItEnds

Not Voting

(1):

MonkeyMan576,

Day 5 Deadline

(expired on 2015-06-09 11:13:22)
with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

What this all tells me:
Garmr and inte have both been on all big scum wagons and on no big town wagon. This is suicide for scum. Calling them town.
That leaves two scum in SC, ZZZX, PereV and Fresh.

Official Vote Count

T S O

(9):

Elyse

, ZZZX, PeregrineV, StrangerCoug,

Sky_Paladin

, Fresh,

rationalmadman

,

massive

,

Jaqen Hghar

Elyse

(7):

Aunt Jemina

, Garmr,

Klingoncelt

,

kthxbye

,

Monkeyman576

,

Boonskiies

,

Ankamius

kthxbye

(1):

DeltaWave

Klingoncelt

(1): inte

PeregrineV

(1):

T S O

Not Voting

(0):

None.

NO LYNCH HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

Night actions deadline in

night 2 deadline

(expired on 2015-04-30 16:16:47)

This VC reinforces that thought: scum were desperately looking for a counterwagon to Elyse and an early bus by garmr or total absence from the wagon by inte makes absolutely no sense at all from a scum POV.

Official Vote Count

Elyse

(10): Garmr,

Boonskiies

, StrangerCoug, inte,

T S O

,

kthxbye

,

Klingoncelt

,

Monkeyman576

, Fresh,

Jaqen Hghar

rationalmadman

(3):

Ankamius

, PeregrineV,

TheWayItEnds

Klingoncelt

(2):

massive

,

rationalmadman

T S O

(2):

Sky_Paladin

,

Elyse

PeregrineV

(1): ZZZX

Not Voting

(0):

None.

SC's early vote for elyse here gains him some townpoints, fresh's vote after the tipping point certainly does not.

PereV hasn't voted for scum even once in all these VC's. That feels like a good place to lynch first.
VOTE: PeregrineV

[Boonskiies]

I think that points to him being town more than scum, tbh. Scum wouldn't have done that; that's why it's Stranger.

VOTE: StrangerCoug

Stranger has literally been in the scummiest spot on votes counts nearly every time. Even when he was on Elyse it was scummy. He's been consistently getting the 3rd or 4th vote on each wagon, helping push it over the edge. 96% sure it is Stranger, with the off 4% chance of it being Fresh, but Fresh has been on StrangerCoug most of the game, so...yeah.

[Boonskiies]

It was a push on Boon.

Scummy.

I understand you are confirmed town, but you cannot seriously expect anyone to sheep you just because I pushed someone else now confirmed town when he wasn't at the time. The only person in your suspect list that wasn't voting Boonskiies when massive blew himself up is inte, so I'd like to know why I've been singled out.

Pushes on me are super scummy, always. Especially when I've been inactive most of the game. I'm an easy mislynch, and people will sheep onto me earlier due to paranoia.