MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over

[TellTaleHeart]

You know, the more wine I drink, the more I really want to take a defibrillator to the ducks wagon.

I'll raise my glass of Glenfiddich to this, and in the spirit of working together:

UNVOTE: Kay
VOTE: shadox

Kitty is equally bad, but shadox has votes and BWs rock.

Sweetie, you misunderstand. I meant a wagon

on

ducks.

[Green Crayons]

Glork didn't pressure her to vote Kay.

Unless if Bella & Kay are scum together.

[Marquis]

(expired on 2015-06-19 17:45:00)

(Fri Jun 19 @ 5:45:00 PM EST)

VOTECOUNT 1.07

• (3)

  Bellaphant

  —
  Glork, TellTaleHeart, Untrod Tripod
  
  (0)

  Bicephalous Bob

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Bob Loblaw

  —
  
  
  (1)

  Fro99er

  —
  Bob Loblaw
  
  (0)

  Glork

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Green Crayons

  —
  
  
  (1)

  KayP

  —
  Bellaphant
  
  (0)

  Kitty Galore

  —
  
  
  (2)

  lalaladucks

  —
  Kitty Galore, Shadoxx8
  
  (3)

  Shadoxx8

  —
  KayP, lalaladucks, Green Crayons
  
  (0)

  TellTaleHeart

  —
  
  
  (0)

  The Bulge

  —
  
  
  (3)

  Untrod Tripod

  —
  The Bulge, Bicephalous Bob, Fro99er
  
  
  (0)

  (NOT VOTING)

  —
  
  
  With
  13

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.
  
  

  ---

  Fro99er
  is V/LA until
  Thurs Jun 18 @ 10 PM EST
  .

[Green Crayons]

oh I thought you meant, like, putting a defibrillator to a living person... which makes 'em dead.

Hey, I gave you credit for an

unnecessarily

really complex analogy!

[Green Crayons]

VOTECOUNT 1.07

• (3)

  Bellaphant

  —
  Glork, TellTaleHeart, Untrod Tripod
  
  (0)

  Bicephalous Bob

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Bob Loblaw

  —
  
  
  (1)

  Fro99er

  —
  Bob Loblaw
  
  (0)

  Glork

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Green Crayons

  —
  
  
  (1)

  KayP

  —
  Bellaphant
  
  (0)

  Kitty Galore

  —
  
  
  (2)

  lalaladucks

  —
  Kitty Galore, Shadoxx8
  
  (3)

  Shadoxx8

  —
  KayP, lalaladucks, Green Crayons
  
  (0)

  TellTaleHeart

  —
  
  
  (0)

  The Bulge

  —
  
  
  (3)

  Untrod Tripod

  —
  The Bulge, Bicephalous Bob, Fro99er
  
  
  (0)

  (NOT VOTING)

  —
  
  
  With
  13

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.

mmmmmm

I'd be fine with a Bella/Shadoxx head-to-head D1 lynch off.

The correct choice obviously being Shadoxx.

[Fro99er]

oh I thought you meant, like, putting a defibrillator to a living person... which makes 'em dead.

Defibs are for reviving dead people.

I just found the phrasing obnoxious

that was literally all that was there

Fair enough. I'll accept this.

I want Kitty to respond. 40 was weaksauce, as I pointed out. The Shadoxx case is good too. I still think Bella's town.

[Fro99er]

Whoops UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shadoxx

[Fro99er]

That would put Shadoxx at L-3

[TellTaleHeart]

GC.
If I could, I would pull your hair right now.

[TellTaleHeart]

Whoops UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shadoxx

Pffffffffffffffffffft

[Bob Loblaw]

Fuck my favorite wagon died.

[lalaladucks]

You know, the more wine I drink, the more I really want to take a defibrillator to the ducks wagon.

[Bob Loblaw]

So saying it was suspicious, while still supporting the wagon, is bad.

See this made sense to me. It was bad. But it feels like she listens to frog's response [#91] about suspecting the L-2 vote (not the misunderstood joke) and totally dismisses the idea even though his explanation has NOTHING to do with the point made above. Yes he thought the L-2 vote was suspicious, but continued to support the lalala wagon in spite of his suspicions. Instead of sticking to her guns on a good point, she turns around and wants to start a TTH wagon with frog.

VOTE: Bella

I don't entirely get why the interaction with Glork is bad.

[Green Crayons]

Case in point: the progression on my L-2 vote. Somehow, Frogger's comments are bad (Post 89) but then we figure out all the way on page 4 that she thought my L-2 vote "without comment" was somehow offensive (Post 92). "L-X without comment" is a really easy thing to lean on but it doesn't require much thought and those arguments tend to turn out to be really superficial. What's worse is that she fishes for [backup] before actually voting (Post 92).

See this made sense to me. It was bad. But it feels like she listens to frog's response [#91] about suspecting the L-2 vote (not the misunderstood joke) and totally dismisses the idea even though his explanation has NOTHING to do with the point made above. Yes he thought the L-2 vote was suspicious, but continued to support the lalala wagon in spite of his suspicions. Instead of sticking to her guns on a good point, she turns around and wants to start a TTH wagon with frog.

These are the same thing, right?

[Bob Loblaw]

Sort of?

[Bob Loblaw]

I guess it depends on what Bella was calling "bad".

If frog's actual comments were bad, it would be weird that she would agree about the L-2 vote being suspicious.
If frog's behavior after making the comments was bad, it would be weird that she wouldn't pursue that theory, especially after acknowledging the L-2 vote as suspicious.

I'm guessing the latter is more accurate but I'll admit I didn't really read into TTH's post I kind of saw the wagon on Bella and looked through her shit to see what bugged me, and I distinctly remember being disappointed that she stopped pressuring frog so I focused on that.

[TellTaleHeart]

You know, the more wine I drink, the more I really want to take a defibrillator to the ducks wagon.

You are being so awkward.

It's little, throwaway things like Post 117 that bug me. I make a raspberry after reading those kinds of posts. The Bella town read was really half-assed and you just kind of piggy-backed on KayP's Shadox case.
I haven't seen anything that looks legit from you and I was kind of expecting to see it by now.

[KayP]

I am heading to bed, but I'm really happy with the two wagons going right now.

[Fro99er]

I'm going to defend Bella here for a sec.

She first townread me all the way up until 89 where she makes the comment about the triple vote being a joke, and the fact that I remained on the wagon with a triple vote would mean ducky is dead, and that's why it was bad.

When I replied I didn't realize the triple vote was a joke, and I thought "activating the triple vote" meant she would keep her L-2 on ducky, and then vote two

other

people, bella realized how I could have missed that as a joke, and said she mis-read my mis-read.

I think at that point, she had no reason to press harder, given she was town reading me already and satisfied by my misunderstanding of the triple vote.


For the KayP thing, Bella had already set up her KayP vote in 72 and 81 as well, so it wasn't completely out of left field, although the Glork post did probably push her to actually use her vote.

[Bob Loblaw]

It still does not follow.

"Frogger saw X as suspicious. Frogger continued to push wagon despite suspicion X."

Even if she originally viewed X as the triple vote nonsense, she should have recognized that the same principle applies to the L-2 Vote.

That whole interaction just feels off. I feel there's definitely scum in at least one of Frogger + Bella.

[Fro99er]

You know, the more wine I drink, the more I really want to take a defibrillator to the ducks wagon.

It's little, throwaway things like Post 117 that bug me. I make a raspberry after reading those kinds of posts. The Bella town read was really half-assed and you just kind of piggy-backed on KayP's Shadox case.

I mean, GC and myself also piggy-backed on the Shadox case. There isn't much more of a case to build other than what KayP laid out in 132, what with all of two Shadoxx posts at this point.

I think the bandwagon is good. Let's get Shadoxx to actually do something.

[Fro99er]

It still does not follow.

"Frogger saw X as suspicious. Frogger continued to push wagon despite suspicion X."

I also noted that the ducky wagon wasn't going to turn into a quicklynch in the very same post I was suspicious of TTH's vote despite being on a wagon with TTH. Because at that point, all I wanted to do was get ducky to talk, so I was comfortable with the situation, knowing a quicklynch wasn't happening.

I also don't believe ducky is suddenly going to get quicklynched, because that would just be idiotic for anyone to do.

I mean, did you honestly believe that there was a chance Ducky would get quicklynched there? Of course not.

[lalaladucks]

You are being so awkward.

It's little, throwaway things like Post 117 that bug me. I make a raspberry after reading those kinds of posts. The Bella town read was really half-assed and you just kind of piggy-backed on KayP's Shadox case.
I haven't seen anything that looks legit from you and I was kind of expecting to see it by now.

Aw

Hypocrisy isn't a scum tell though?

I'm often hypocritical as town and I've seen plenty of others guilty of this as well.

Bella townread was half arsed yes. It's evaporated by now though. Piggy backs are fun, what's wrong with having fun? I hadn't noticed that Shadoxx was the one who made those two comments and together they look really dissonant and suspicious.

I haven't seen anything particularly legit from you tbh.

[Bob Loblaw]

I guess it depends on the severity of the read but when I view a vote as suspicious it usually stems from the idea that the player being voted for isn't actually scum.

[TellTaleHeart]

VOTE: lalaladucks