MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over

[TellTaleHeart]

Come on, vote her.
Then we can hear more from Bob about how we're picking on the poor newbies.

[Fro99er]

My point was, if people don't push on Shadoxx (or Kitty), we're just going to let them sit there and do fuck all in a quick game. It's one thing to go V/LA or just completely flake. It's another thing to be active elsewhere yet not post in this thread.

That's cool and all, but my point is is that you appear to agree with TTH's basic premise (the Shadox wagon is bad for the reasons previous articulated ITT), but that you're maintaining a Shadox vote now simply as a lurker vote.

I'm trying to figure out what suspicions you are still embracing, and what suspicions you're dropping.

1) Do not agree with TTH's premise.
2) I'm pointing out an additional reason other than the case KayP made (that you are citing as well, and that I admitted I (along with you) was sheeping in post 195) to keep the pressure on Shadoxx.

[Bellaphant]

@untrod, I'd love to hear some sustained thoughts from you.

[Untrod Tripod]

Come on, vote her.
Then we can hear more from Bob about how we're picking on the poor newbies.

oh shit, I thought I was

vote lalalalalalalaladucks

[Untrod Tripod]

@untrod, I'd love to hear some sustained thoughts from you.

about....?

[Bellaphant]

Any of your votes, to start with. You got any questions for anyone?

[Untrod Tripod]

Any of your votes, to start with. You got any questions for anyone?

yeah. why are you voting KP? I don't see anything in your ISO about your scumread on them

[Green Crayons]

@TTH:

B) He is fencesitting regarding ducks: RVS ducks vote. Fine. Then comes back to say that ducks's play is consistent with ducks' D1 play generally. Also fine. Then compares ducks's D1 play to a lot of players, thereby suggesting that this is a town read. Then immediately notes that prior experience with an undefined "she" (ducks? good monring?) D1 play was scum play. End result is Shadox has successful established that ducks play could be town, could be scum, and he maintains his vote.

So you don't know which antecedents go to which pronouns and the overall message of the post is confusing?

It's almost like the root cause of this is... unclear writing. Where did I hear that before?

No.

It doesn't matter whether "she" is referring to ducks or GM.

Because in either instance, the point being made - ducks's play is town AND ducks's play is scum (vis-a-vis ducks/GM) - is the same.

That he's intentionally obfuscating the meaning of his post.

lol, what?

Like, on what basis are you justifying this projection?

This is some serious baseless 11th dimensional chess, here.

[KayP]

My point was, if people don't push on Shadoxx (or Kitty), we're just going to let them sit there and do fuck all in a quick game. It's one thing to go V/LA or just completely flake. It's another thing to be active elsewhere yet not post in this thread.

Oh, we are allowed to mention this? I thought we couldn't mention this because of ongoing games rules... if that's the case, then I noticed ducks avoiding this thread specifically while posting heavily in other games. It was specifically around the 4-5 page mark of this thread, while ducks was a very heavy center of discussion between myself, Frogger, and Glork. In fact, she was posting elsewhere, and didn't come back until after Fro99er backed down and then Glork attacked me. It looks very suspicious that ducks was observably active on the forum but avoided this thread until the heat on her had died down.

[Fro99er]

Oh, we are allowed to mention this? I thought we couldn't mention this because of ongoing games rules...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30908

OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games and is posting in those games, but he hasn't posted here in 3 days."

All I did was mention Shadoxx had posted today, but not in this thread. Seems within the rules to me, no?

[KayP]

Yeah, that's fine then. I hadn't read that thread closely, so I guess what I said above is fine as well.

[Bellaphant]

@Untrod - really? My scum-read on them has been pretty consistent. However, I like their post about lala's activity and wish she'd mentioned it earlier.

My vote is doing anything right now, though, and the day is quick.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: lala

The lack of content, when pushed, is not town-play.
l-2, if anyone likes irony.

[Green Crayons]

So is ducks going to come in here and claim already or what?

[lalaladucks]

My point was, if people don't push on Shadoxx (or Kitty), we're just going to let them sit there and do fuck all in a quick game. It's one thing to go V/LA or just completely flake. It's another thing to be active elsewhere yet not post in this thread.

Oh, we are allowed to mention this? I thought we couldn't mention this because of ongoing games rules... if that's the case, then I noticed ducks avoiding this thread specifically while posting heavily in other games. It was specifically around the 4-5 page mark of this thread, while ducks was a very heavy center of discussion between myself, Frogger, and Glork. In fact, she was posting elsewhere, and didn't come back until after Fro99er backed down and then Glork attacked me. It looks very suspicious that ducks was observably active on the forum but avoided this thread until the heat on her had died down.

huh?

for the past two days I've only had phone access - but this is just Day 1, there isn't a great amount to go off, I have less things to say.

and what I do say TTH jumps on immediately, labelling it with bad-sounding words and utilising it to scumpaint me.

[lalaladucks]

So is ducks going to come in here and claim already or what?

ofc, for you <3

Vanilla freaking Townie once again

ridiculous

[Kitty Galore]

Sorry you guys, didn't mean to flake. I have been training on a new job and it had been kicking my ass. I have tomorrow and the next day off, so I should be able to dig in and see what is going on. Right now, I'm just surface level. I will try to get in and post some tonight.

[Marquis]

(expired on 2015-06-19 17:45:00)

(Fri Jun 19 @ 5:45:00 PM EST)

VOTECOUNT 1.09

• (2)

  Bellaphant

  —
  Glork, Bob Loblaw
  
  (0)

  Bicephalous Bob

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Bob Loblaw

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Fro99er

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Glork

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Green Crayons

  —
  
  
  (0)

  KayP

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Kitty Galore

  —
  
  
  (5)

  lalaladucks

  —
  Kitty Galore, Shadoxx8, TellTaleHeart, Untrod Tripod, Bellaphant
  (L-2)
  
  
  (4)

  Shadoxx8

  —
  KayP, lalaladucks, Green Crayons, Fro99er
  (L-3)
  
  
  (0)

  TellTaleHeart

  —
  
  
  (0)

  The Bulge

  —
  
  
  (2)

  Untrod Tripod

  —
  The Bulge, Bicephalous Bob
  
  
  (0)

  (NOT VOTING)

  —
  
  
  With
  13

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.
  
  

  ---

  Fro99er
  is V/LA until
  Thurs Jun 18 @ 10 PM EST
  .

[TellTaleHeart]

and what I do say TTH jumps on immediately, labelling it with bad-sounding words and utilising it to scumpaint me.

Yep, I'm just a dumb bitch pushing something stupid. Meanwhile, the Shadox wagon under the "fencesitting" banner or voting under the guise of "let's lynch an 'experienced' player" is so absurdly beautiful and grand and well-founded.
Story of this game.

Curious, what's your read on Bicephalous Bob?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Is this going to be "let's take little potshots at TTH because Bella is my houseplant"? I'm telling you right now, I'm going to fucking hate your guts if you play that game.

No, this is "let's chastize and maybe hang TTH for wording a case in such a way I can hardly believe she believes it herself."

Do you have any reads on pre-2015 players?

Yes, I think you're scum. Bring it.

Come on, vote her.
Then we can hear more from Bob about how we're picking on the poor newbies.

stop letting antihero play on your account

or at least tell him that you're scum

and what I do say TTH jumps on immediately, labelling it with bad-sounding words and utilising it to scumpaint me.

Yep, I'm just a dumb bitch pushing something stupid. Meanwhile, the Shadox wagon under the "fencesitting" banner or voting under the guise of "let's lynch an 'experienced' player" is so absurdly beautiful and grand and well-founded.

your case would've been more attractive if you'd mentioned that I said that the wordy people are alright before calling all wordy cases on new players boring

people dig that kind of contrast

[Bob Loblaw]

[TellTaleHeart]

X|

Remind me to say something about TTH after her next post.

Bob 2 feels formulaic.

The case on shadox is the only case on a supernew player that isn't boring.

I'd feel more comfortable lynching an experienced player today, though.

[lalaladucks]

Curious, what's your read on Bicephalous Bob?

Null.

[Bicephalous Bob]

X|

Remind me to say something about TTH after her next post.

Bob 2 feels formulaic.

The case on shadox is the only case on a supernew player that isn't boring.

I'd feel more comfortable lynching an experienced player today, though.

the case on shadox wasn't wordy

you'll have to do better than that to discredit my case on me

[TellTaleHeart]

I am so lost. What are you even talking about now?

[TellTaleHeart]

X\

I feel like there's something

really

important that I'm missing because I only have a small smattering of town reads (Glork, UT, and Bob L) and I usually have more at this point. I also feel like I should have a lot more comfortable view of the game state by now and I have a lot of doubt, mostly because I feel like I'm

pretty

far off everyone else's wavelength.