NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

Grib · Post Post #4125 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:22 am

Drixx, I will probably lynch you if you don't start posting your thoughts.

Grib · Post Post #4126 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:22 am

elusive, you can't keep thinking I'm a Serial Killer every time I change my avatar.

Rubicon · Post Post #4127 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:42 am

In post 4111, davesaz wrote:BBT's claim could easily be fake and I had a weak scum on the slot before.

Did you? Why?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4128 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:15 am

Soooo, we're lynching RIP or Nero Today, right?

Vampirate · Post Post #4129 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:23 am

In post 4128, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Soooo, we're lynching RIP or Nero Today, right?

Pretty much, at this point i'm inclined to go for Nero because of his denial of being Ascetic and already claiming townie.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4130 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:25 am

I could lynch Nero.

Drixx · Post Post #4131 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:27 am

In post 4125, Grib wrote:Drixx, I will probably lynch you if you don't start posting your thoughts.

First update incoming in a bit then. I'll try and post thoughts as I go, although I generally view that as really showy coming from a replacement. I'm actually pretty good at figuring out the game late, so I'd kind of like to not get lynched if that's possible.

Rubicon · Post Post #4132 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:44 am

RIP, Nero or Drixx.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4133 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:48 am

OK, I just had a thought. I wanted to lynch RIP first until I had the following thought;

RIP claims to have been role-blocked somehow. I have been left alive. I claimed Doc, and was allowed to live. Why would scum let that happen? Did/do scum really have two roleblockers? Are scum OK with me living because they can simply block me every night until people doubt my claim?

I think I wanna do Nero first.

VOTE: Nero

Rubicon · Post Post #4134 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:02 am

That makes me realize I don't know why you think Nero is scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4135 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:03 am

I really disliked his heavy push on Boon in the early game.

I also disliked his abandonment of his sure read once a bigger wagon took off (can't remember who it was on). I'm sure I have explained this somewhere

Vampirate · Post Post #4136 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:08 am

In post 4132, Rubicon wrote:RIP, Nero or Drixx.

Not that i'm complaining but how'd I get off your pool of suspect lists, at least for today?

RIP · Post Post #4137 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:18 am

In post 4133, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK, I just had a thought. I wanted to lynch RIP first until I had the following thought;

RIP claims to have been role-blocked somehow. I have been left alive. I claimed Doc, and was allowed to live. Why would scum let that happen? Did/do scum really have two roleblockers? Are scum OK with me living because they can simply block me every night until people doubt my claim?

I think I wanna do Nero first.

VOTE: Nero

Are we sure there's not a jail keeper? Cuz I can see a town player protecting me or bbt.
Bbt alive as doc, specially with that day not having a kill means rubi was protected by bbt and tRgeted by scum.
Or scum kill was blocked.
Or scum didn't submit or forgot.
There's are a few obv town.
Bbt
Rip
Rubi based on bbt.
Grib should be but I just think he's scum.
I'm back to thinking vamp has to be town based on many things I look for and I just know he's not flipping scum here.
The rest idk.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4138 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:20 am

Everyone has claimed.

There is no JK.

RIP · Post Post #4139 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:23 am

Vamp I really want to see u play better man. I have flashes of you town and then back to scum and vice versa.
Your lack of volume and care makes u look bad but your posting if looked at its towny POV imo.

BBT can you tell me who are you hard clearing since you came in?
I just had a thought that you probably have been clearing scum team and yet letting u alive in the chance you protect them or they will attack those who you are pushing.
Maybe that's why peace is dead.
Did you scum read peace or push at all?

RIP · Post Post #4140 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:24 am

Idk then. Maybe someone is lying o stay alive or idk.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4141 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:25 am

No I don't believe I scum read Peace.

The only people I would consider 'cleared' are Grib and Rubicon. Maybe elusive as well due to predecessor's protection.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #4142 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:26 am

And Dave. But that is based on Grib being town.

Rubicon · Post Post #4143 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:40 am

Vampirate: I've been leaning town on you for a while based on the effort you've put into solving the game (at least before today) and also posts like #3024 which looks more like scum whiteknighting town. I'm not ruling out lynching you, but you're lower on my list.

Rubicon · Post Post #4144 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:49 am

My reads are straightforward.

TOWN

elusive: town by meta, doc protect

Grib: town because I don't think we have a serial killer (multiple nights with no kill, no nights with more than one kill) and because I know how to read him and he's town

BBT: likely town based on role and cop clear (whether or not RIP is telling the truth)

Vampirate: lean town based on the effort he's put into solving the game and also posts like #3024 which looks more like scum whiteknighting town

davesaz: town by Grib clear -- small risk of godfather, but if he were a godfather he couldn't have roleblocked RIP

SUSPECTS

RIP: no idea how to read any of the people in this slot

Drixx: scummy but couldn't have roleblocked RIP

Nero Cain: I'm willing to lynch him purely because him being ascetic/commuter makes sense mechanically, but I'm expecting him to flip town

Rubicon · Post Post #4145 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:50 am

It does probably mean something that Peace died before BBT.

Vampirate · Post Post #4146 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:54 am

In post 4144, Rubicon wrote:My reads are straightforward.

TOWN

elusive: town by meta, doc protect

Grib: town because I don't think we have a serial killer (multiple nights with no kill, no nights with more than one kill) and because I know how to read him and he's town

BBT: likely town based on role and cop clear (whether or not RIP is telling the truth)

Vampirate: lean town based on the effort he's put into solving the game and also posts like #3024 which looks more like scum whiteknighting town

davesaz: town by Grib clear -- small risk of godfather, but if he were a godfather he couldn't have roleblocked RIP

SUSPECTS

RIP: no idea how to read any of the people in this slot

Drixx: scummy but couldn't have roleblocked RIP

Nero Cain: I'm willing to lynch him purely because him being ascetic/commuter makes sense mechanically, but I'm expecting him to flip town

I'd say we lynch Nero, then failing that Drixx

As for Nero, if someone put a rolestopper on him claimign anytime would be great. (up to your discretion of course)

I doubt there's another roleblocker, while possible I too doubt it.

The only reason left is Nero is lying as scum or as town.

Should Nero end up as VT then I guess we have another role blocker in play but that's lame.

Rubicon · Post Post #4147 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:03 am

Are you ruling out the possibility that RIP is just lying?

Vampirate · Post Post #4148 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:07 am

In post 4147, Rubicon wrote:Are you ruling out the possibility that RIP is just lying?

No, but how would he benefit as scum unless he has some master plan that could handle all the questions coming his way.

Seems unnecessary work for scum.

Rubicon · Post Post #4149 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:49 pm

I agree, but he might have done it anyway.

On another note, elusive now has a completed scum game.